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Reena Virk killer Kelly Ellard's prison pregnancy spurs calls for policy review
Kim Bolan, Postmedia Network
First posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:43 AM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:49 AM EDT
Conservative MP Tony Clement said the federal government should review the policy that allowed infamous killer Kelly Ellard to get pregnant while serving a life sentence for murder.
Clement, public safety critic for the official Opposition, said the news that Ellard is expecting a baby inside prison "is very disturbing."
"It deserves certainly a review," he said.
Postmedia News revealed Monday that Ellard, 33, is in the late stages of pregnancy after being allowed a conjugal visit in a B.C. prison with her federal parolee boyfriend last spring.
The boyfriend, Darwin Dorozan, 41, has since been returned to prison for an alleged breach of his parole.
Under Correctional Service of Canada rules, all inmates are eligible for private family visits if they and their visitors meet the criteria. The visits can occur every two months for up to 72 hours in a separate building on prison grounds.
Correctional services would not comment on the specifics of Ellard's case due to privacy laws.
But Clement said despite the policy allowing the intimate visits, "common sense has got to prevail as well."
"I just think that they've got to apply the rules with common sense," Clement said. "They have created a situation by allowing this to happen that now requires further intervention to assess the newborn's health and wellness and ability to thrive, not just survive."
Clement said a child advocate should be appointed to represent the interests of Ellard’s unborn child.
"I think the whole thing should be reviewed. And the policy should be reviewed. And obviously the particular circumstances of this particular newborn will have to be also reviewed by a child advocate who is an expert to this field," said Clement, who earlier this month dropped out of the Conservative leadership race.
He said the difficult circumstances surrounding the case have “now created a very complicated situation with conflicting rights and responsibilities.”
Under a correctional services program, babies born to incarcerated mothers are allowed in some cases to remain with their mothers inside their institution under a program that began in 1997.
The baby’s father is serving a seven-year, two-month sentence after pleading guilty in 2012 to 11 counts of break and enter. He stole items to support a heroin addiction, according to parole records.
Ellard was convicted in 2005 of the 1997 murder of 14-year-old Reena Virk, who was brutally beaten and drowned under a Victoria bridge.
Though she was just 15, Ellard was raised to adult court and sentenced to life with no possibility of parole for seven years.
Last May, the Parole Board of Canada rejected her bid for day parole, saying that while she had finally accepted responsibility for her role in Virk’s murder, she needed to do more work before being released in the community.
She is eligible to apply for parole again in 2017.
Virk’s elderly grandfather Mukand Pallan said Monday that he knew nothing about Ellard’s pregnancy until contacted by Postmedia.
He said he didn’t think the news “is anything to be proud of for her or her family."
"I'm sorry to hear that," Pallan said.
He also said having a child would likely help Ellard get parole when she applies again next year.
“I think they will let her out. We were expecting that last time when they rejected her parole. They said to her to try again next year,” Pallan said.
Because of the baby “they will probably let her out. That will help her to get out.”
He said his family doesn’t plan on attending her next parole hearing.
“We are trying to forget it,” Pallan said.
kbolan@postemedia.com
Reena Virk killer Kelly Ellard's prison pregnancy spurs calls for policy review
Kim Bolan, Postmedia Network
First posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:43 AM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:49 AM EDT
Conservative MP Tony Clement said the federal government should review the policy that allowed infamous killer Kelly Ellard to get pregnant while serving a life sentence for murder.
Clement, public safety critic for the official Opposition, said the news that Ellard is expecting a baby inside prison "is very disturbing."
"It deserves certainly a review," he said.
Postmedia News revealed Monday that Ellard, 33, is in the late stages of pregnancy after being allowed a conjugal visit in a B.C. prison with her federal parolee boyfriend last spring.
The boyfriend, Darwin Dorozan, 41, has since been returned to prison for an alleged breach of his parole.
Under Correctional Service of Canada rules, all inmates are eligible for private family visits if they and their visitors meet the criteria. The visits can occur every two months for up to 72 hours in a separate building on prison grounds.
Correctional services would not comment on the specifics of Ellard's case due to privacy laws.
But Clement said despite the policy allowing the intimate visits, "common sense has got to prevail as well."
"I just think that they've got to apply the rules with common sense," Clement said. "They have created a situation by allowing this to happen that now requires further intervention to assess the newborn's health and wellness and ability to thrive, not just survive."
Clement said a child advocate should be appointed to represent the interests of Ellard’s unborn child.
"I think the whole thing should be reviewed. And the policy should be reviewed. And obviously the particular circumstances of this particular newborn will have to be also reviewed by a child advocate who is an expert to this field," said Clement, who earlier this month dropped out of the Conservative leadership race.
He said the difficult circumstances surrounding the case have “now created a very complicated situation with conflicting rights and responsibilities.”
Under a correctional services program, babies born to incarcerated mothers are allowed in some cases to remain with their mothers inside their institution under a program that began in 1997.
The baby’s father is serving a seven-year, two-month sentence after pleading guilty in 2012 to 11 counts of break and enter. He stole items to support a heroin addiction, according to parole records.
Ellard was convicted in 2005 of the 1997 murder of 14-year-old Reena Virk, who was brutally beaten and drowned under a Victoria bridge.
Though she was just 15, Ellard was raised to adult court and sentenced to life with no possibility of parole for seven years.
Last May, the Parole Board of Canada rejected her bid for day parole, saying that while she had finally accepted responsibility for her role in Virk’s murder, she needed to do more work before being released in the community.
She is eligible to apply for parole again in 2017.
Virk’s elderly grandfather Mukand Pallan said Monday that he knew nothing about Ellard’s pregnancy until contacted by Postmedia.
He said he didn’t think the news “is anything to be proud of for her or her family."
"I'm sorry to hear that," Pallan said.
He also said having a child would likely help Ellard get parole when she applies again next year.
“I think they will let her out. We were expecting that last time when they rejected her parole. They said to her to try again next year,” Pallan said.
Because of the baby “they will probably let her out. That will help her to get out.”
He said his family doesn’t plan on attending her next parole hearing.
“We are trying to forget it,” Pallan said.
kbolan@postemedia.com
Reena Virk killer Kelly Ellard's prison pregnancy spurs calls for policy review
Pregnant killer Kelly Ellard's boyfriend a 'person of interest' in drug dealer disappearance
Kim Bolan, Postmedia Network
First posted: Friday, November 04, 2016 08:14 PM EDT | Updated: Saturday, November 05, 2016 01:31 AM EDT
The boyfriend of pregnant killer Kelly Ellard is a “person of interest” in the May 2016 disappearance of a low-level drug dealer, according to Parole Board of Canada documents.
Darwin Dorozan, 42, had his parole revoked after Correctional Services of Canada officials were made aware of the investigation into the missing dealer, the just-released documents say.
"On the same date full parole was granted, police advised CSC that you were a person of interest in the suspicious disappearance of a low-level drug dealer in May 2016," the parole board said in its Oct. 27 ruling.
"After reviewing this information, the CSC made a decision to issue a warrant of apprehension and suspension for the protection of society."
Postmedia News revealed last month that Ellard, convicted of the 1997 murder of teenager Reena Virk, was eight months pregnant after being allowed private family visits in prison with Dorozan while he was on day parole.
Her lawyer Sarah Rauch earlier told Postmedia that they had known each other for about five years and that CSC had done “huge scrutiny” before allowing the couple to have conjugal visits earlier this year.
Dorozan was arrested at his place of work on Aug. 12, 2016, "without incident," say the parole documents signed by board member Linda Cross. "Police information is limited due to the active investigation.”
Cross said it’s not clear what, if any, role Dorozan had in the May disappearance. The missing man is not named in the ruling. The RCMP could not provide details of his identity Friday.
But Cross said Dorozan admitted having contact with a friend who “was closely associated to the missing person.”
“You admitted that you travelled to visit your friend in May, which is the same month the alleged victim disappeared.”
The documents say Dorozan was photographed at a U-Haul rental outlet with the friend and the now-missing man.
He told his parole supervisor that his friend didn’t have a driver’s licence, so Dorozan agreed to rent the vehicle for him.
“You claimed you did not know the other man in the photograph nor did you know the person had gone missing,” Cross said. “You were adamant that you were not involved in the incident.”
But Cross said the new "allegation bears some similarity to the circumstances resulting in your first federal sentence: You were convicted in 2001 for your part in kidnapping and robbing a drug dealer whom your accomplice tortured, shot and killed."
She noted that Dorozan had not told staff at his halfway house he was going to rent a vehicle or visit his friend.
“You refused to provide contact information for the individual you rented the U-Haul vehicle for so that your parole officer could corroborate your story. You acknowledged that this did not put you in a positive light but disclosed that this individual is an American who is illegally in Canada.”
The friend later made phone contact with the parole officer to verify Dorozan’s story, but was “belligerent and confrontational” during the call.
Correctional officials recommended that Dorozan’s parole be revoked because he was dishonest with his “community management team.”
Cross agreed.
“The board is satisfied that, if released, you will present an undue risk of reoffending before the expiration of your sentence. As such, the board is revoking your full parole,” she said.
Dorozan is serving a seven-year, two-month sentence after pleading guilty in 2012 to 11 counts of breaking and entering. He stole items to support a heroin addiction.
He was released on day parole in February 2015 and granted full parole on Aug. 12, 2016, hours before being arrested again.
Ellard is serving a life sentence for second-degree murder after beating and drowning Virk under a Victoria-area bridge when both were teenagers.
She was denied day parole in May despite the Parole Board of Canada noting that she was finally taking some responsibility for the murder and had made strides in her rehabilitation.
Dorozan’s latest parole documents mention his “committed relationship with a high-profile female federal offender who remains incarcerated at this time.”
“CSC approved you for private family visits, which you completed without concern. You are expecting a child in November 2016,” the documents say.
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Convicted killer Kelly Ellard is eight-months pregnant following a conjugal visit from her boyfriend, Darwin Dorozan. POSTMEDIA
Pregnant killer Kelly Ellard's boyfriend a 'person of interest' in drug dealer d
Kim Bolan, Postmedia Network
First posted: Friday, November 04, 2016 08:14 PM EDT | Updated: Saturday, November 05, 2016 01:31 AM EDT
The boyfriend of pregnant killer Kelly Ellard is a “person of interest” in the May 2016 disappearance of a low-level drug dealer, according to Parole Board of Canada documents.
Darwin Dorozan, 42, had his parole revoked after Correctional Services of Canada officials were made aware of the investigation into the missing dealer, the just-released documents say.
"On the same date full parole was granted, police advised CSC that you were a person of interest in the suspicious disappearance of a low-level drug dealer in May 2016," the parole board said in its Oct. 27 ruling.
"After reviewing this information, the CSC made a decision to issue a warrant of apprehension and suspension for the protection of society."
Postmedia News revealed last month that Ellard, convicted of the 1997 murder of teenager Reena Virk, was eight months pregnant after being allowed private family visits in prison with Dorozan while he was on day parole.
Her lawyer Sarah Rauch earlier told Postmedia that they had known each other for about five years and that CSC had done “huge scrutiny” before allowing the couple to have conjugal visits earlier this year.
Dorozan was arrested at his place of work on Aug. 12, 2016, "without incident," say the parole documents signed by board member Linda Cross. "Police information is limited due to the active investigation.”
Cross said it’s not clear what, if any, role Dorozan had in the May disappearance. The missing man is not named in the ruling. The RCMP could not provide details of his identity Friday.
But Cross said Dorozan admitted having contact with a friend who “was closely associated to the missing person.”
“You admitted that you travelled to visit your friend in May, which is the same month the alleged victim disappeared.”
The documents say Dorozan was photographed at a U-Haul rental outlet with the friend and the now-missing man.
He told his parole supervisor that his friend didn’t have a driver’s licence, so Dorozan agreed to rent the vehicle for him.
“You claimed you did not know the other man in the photograph nor did you know the person had gone missing,” Cross said. “You were adamant that you were not involved in the incident.”
But Cross said the new "allegation bears some similarity to the circumstances resulting in your first federal sentence: You were convicted in 2001 for your part in kidnapping and robbing a drug dealer whom your accomplice tortured, shot and killed."
She noted that Dorozan had not told staff at his halfway house he was going to rent a vehicle or visit his friend.
“You refused to provide contact information for the individual you rented the U-Haul vehicle for so that your parole officer could corroborate your story. You acknowledged that this did not put you in a positive light but disclosed that this individual is an American who is illegally in Canada.”
The friend later made phone contact with the parole officer to verify Dorozan’s story, but was “belligerent and confrontational” during the call.
Correctional officials recommended that Dorozan’s parole be revoked because he was dishonest with his “community management team.”
Cross agreed.
“The board is satisfied that, if released, you will present an undue risk of reoffending before the expiration of your sentence. As such, the board is revoking your full parole,” she said.
Dorozan is serving a seven-year, two-month sentence after pleading guilty in 2012 to 11 counts of breaking and entering. He stole items to support a heroin addiction.
He was released on day parole in February 2015 and granted full parole on Aug. 12, 2016, hours before being arrested again.
Ellard is serving a life sentence for second-degree murder after beating and drowning Virk under a Victoria-area bridge when both were teenagers.
She was denied day parole in May despite the Parole Board of Canada noting that she was finally taking some responsibility for the murder and had made strides in her rehabilitation.
Dorozan’s latest parole documents mention his “committed relationship with a high-profile female federal offender who remains incarcerated at this time.”
“CSC approved you for private family visits, which you completed without concern. You are expecting a child in November 2016,” the documents say.
kbolan@postmedia.com
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Convicted killer Kelly Ellard is eight-months pregnant following a conjugal visit from her boyfriend, Darwin Dorozan. POSTMEDIA
Pregnant killer Kelly Ellard's boyfriend a 'person of interest' in drug dealer d
Pregnant killer Kelly Ellard's boyfriend a 'person of interest' in drug dealer disappearance
Kim Bolan, Postmedia Network
First posted: Friday, November 04, 2016 08:14 PM EDT | Updated: Saturday, November 05, 2016 01:31 AM EDT
The boyfriend of pregnant killer Kelly Ellard is a “person of interest” in the May 2016 disappearance of a low-level drug dealer, according to Parole Board of Canada documents.
Darwin Dorozan, 42, had his parole revoked after Correctional Services of Canada officials were made aware of the investigation into the missing dealer, the just-released documents say.
"On the same date full parole was granted, police advised CSC that you were a person of interest in the suspicious disappearance of a low-level drug dealer in May 2016," the parole board said in its Oct. 27 ruling.
"After reviewing this information, the CSC made a decision to issue a warrant of apprehension and suspension for the protection of society."
Postmedia News revealed last month that Ellard, convicted of the 1997 murder of teenager Reena Virk, was eight months pregnant after being allowed private family visits in prison with Dorozan while he was on day parole.
Her lawyer Sarah Rauch earlier told Postmedia that they had known each other for about five years and that CSC had done “huge scrutiny” before allowing the couple to have conjugal visits earlier this year.
Dorozan was arrested at his place of work on Aug. 12, 2016, "without incident," say the parole documents signed by board member Linda Cross. "Police information is limited due to the active investigation.”
Cross said it’s not clear what, if any, role Dorozan had in the May disappearance. The missing man is not named in the ruling. The RCMP could not provide details of his identity Friday.
But Cross said Dorozan admitted having contact with a friend who “was closely associated to the missing person.”
“You admitted that you travelled to visit your friend in May, which is the same month the alleged victim disappeared.”
The documents say Dorozan was photographed at a U-Haul rental outlet with the friend and the now-missing man.
He told his parole supervisor that his friend didn’t have a driver’s licence, so Dorozan agreed to rent the vehicle for him.
“You claimed you did not know the other man in the photograph nor did you know the person had gone missing,” Cross said. “You were adamant that you were not involved in the incident.”
But Cross said the new "allegation bears some similarity to the circumstances resulting in your first federal sentence: You were convicted in 2001 for your part in kidnapping and robbing a drug dealer whom your accomplice tortured, shot and killed."
She noted that Dorozan had not told staff at his halfway house he was going to rent a vehicle or visit his friend.
“You refused to provide contact information for the individual you rented the U-Haul vehicle for so that your parole officer could corroborate your story. You acknowledged that this did not put you in a positive light but disclosed that this individual is an American who is illegally in Canada.”
The friend later made phone contact with the parole officer to verify Dorozan’s story, but was “belligerent and confrontational” during the call.
Correctional officials recommended that Dorozan’s parole be revoked because he was dishonest with his “community management team.”
Cross agreed.
“The board is satisfied that, if released, you will present an undue risk of reoffending before the expiration of your sentence. As such, the board is revoking your full parole,” she said.
Dorozan is serving a seven-year, two-month sentence after pleading guilty in 2012 to 11 counts of breaking and entering. He stole items to support a heroin addiction.
He was released on day parole in February 2015 and granted full parole on Aug. 12, 2016, hours before being arrested again.
Ellard is serving a life sentence for second-degree murder after beating and drowning Virk under a Victoria-area bridge when both were teenagers.
She was denied day parole in May despite the Parole Board of Canada noting that she was finally taking some responsibility for the murder and had made strides in her rehabilitation.
Dorozan’s latest parole documents mention his “committed relationship with a high-profile female federal offender who remains incarcerated at this time.”
“CSC approved you for private family visits, which you completed without concern. You are expecting a child in November 2016,” the documents say.
kbolan@postmedia.com
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Convicted killer Kelly Ellard is eight-months pregnant following a conjugal visit from her boyfriend, Darwin Dorozan. POSTMEDIA
Pregnant killer Kelly Ellard's boyfriend a 'person of interest' in drug dealer d
What kind of hare brained system allows incarcerated criminals to get pregnant?
Lock her up until she dies. Her crime was way too vicious for her to get any types of pity or least of all freedom. No place for the Reena to walk freely in this world, well none for her.
Good thing our justice system isn't based on vengeance the way you would like it.
Totally! As long as there's twits in the country that defend this sort of nonsense, it will continue, I'm afraid!
I've kind of come around to the thinking, that's there's worse kinds of suffering than death. The main problem is to do it without expense.
And who do you think is going to be paying for this kid until he/she is at least 19? And of course it will have stellar role models for guidance unless of course gets farmed out to someone else's responsibility. Might be difficult w/o a guarantee on the gene pool!
Yes, the US and Saudi legal systems are so much better
Not you so quit your whining
You think it is a good idea to allow convicted murderers to conceive in prison with the assistance of the state ?
With another convicted criminal no less .