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If the houses are not maintained I guess there would be substandard living conditions, are you trying to say the taxpayer should pay more for repairs and new housing that are already budgeted for?
 

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If the houses are not maintained I guess there would be substandard living conditions, are you trying to say the taxpayer should pay more for repairs and new housing that are already budgeted for?
If FNs are one big happy family other Rezes that are well off could be kicking in to a housing fund to help their cousins through hard times.

Reconciliation goes far beyond the actions of the Crown.

There is still bad blood between Nations that to this day can get violent. This "traditional territory" crap is going to come to a head and it will be ugly.

The Nations chased up here by the US Calvary after Little Bighorn have no traditional territory. Oji-Cree followed the Métis and whites West for jobs and displaced the Assiniboine and Dene.

It's going to take several more generations before all Nations are on an equal footing.


That's not going to come until the past is deep in the past.

Canada is still new. Homesteaders and the FNs forced on a Rez are still wandering the halls of retirement homes.
 
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for the Indians in Canada's far north are the diamond miners from South Africa. There must be 14 levels of irony in that but since they aren't there to actually help it is all window dressing that lets the medical experiments continue. My current opinion is based on the following material.
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/02/201221017545565952.html
Canada mining boom leaves natives in the cold
Which language are the controls in rock trucks and other equipment at the diamond mines in?

At last week’s Association for Mineral Exploration (AME) annual Roundup conference, Kim Rudd, parliamentary secretary to the minister of Natural Resources Canada, pointed out that mining is the largest employer of First Nations in Canada, employing 11,000 Indigenous people.


There are some 400 agreements between mining companies and First Nations across Canada, she said.

http://www.mining.com/web/major-mines-increasingly-tapping-canadian-indigenous-labour-force/
In SK 60% of miners are Natives but make up only 12% of the population.

They have $45hr jobs and live far better than the average Canadian.
 
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Ever wonder why most of Southern SK Rezes are in the East? They needed a buffer zone between the Blood and Cree. Then when you head North where the Cree took Dene as slaves the hatred really runs deep. There are fights at bingo in LaRonge.
 

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Saulteaux were Northern and southern Cree favourites for slaves as well, stronger Dene tribes would also capture their weaker Saulteaux cousins to offer as payment to the Cree.
 

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Just wasting words while they wait for the South African negotiators to arrive, Pete and Repeter are the ones most requested.



https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/A-journey-to-Saskatchewans-Jewish-past-385283
This was meant to be an answer to a Zionist Homeland, an alternative to Uganda. 652,000 square kilometers of frozen soil in the remote province of Saskatchewan, Canada, awaited the mass migration of Jews who wanted to flee from the pogroms of the last century – but only a few actually arrived. A journey to a failed Promised Land somewhere on the borders of Canada and the United States. (241,314sq mi)
For a Jewish state here.

HERE IS SASKATCHEWAN. The local Native Americans gave it the name that means “Waters flowing from the mountain.” In aerial photographs this province in the southwest of Canada has the shape of a rectangle. 652,000 sq.km. of arid soil, frozen and empty. One million inhabitants with a density of 1.6 people per sq.km. Its emptiness reverberates. But the neighbors are pleasant. When you can rely on the US to the south, the guns are as silent as the hatchets of the Indian wars.

How did the Saskatchewan proposal come into being? In 1903, the sixth Zionist Congress buried the Uganda proposal but did not solve the problem of resettling the Jews. As opposed to the promoters of Zion who declared “Eretz Israel at all costs,” some Jewish leaders thought differently.
He wrote in a letter to his friend, the writer H.G. Wells, “Whatever the difficulties involved, they will certainly be far less difficult if Englishmen like you will support the idea of the new state. The Jews would be most grateful for British help in achieving a state if it would stem from pro-Jewish and not anti-Jewish sentiments; from justness and not hatred of the Jews.”

Zangwill turned to Lord Strathcona, the Canadian high commissioner in London. A few days before they were due to meet, pogroms occurred in the Polish city of Bialystok.

“The life of the Jews hangs in the balance,” he told Strathcona, “The Jews who will settle there will create an autonomous region within the dominion of Canada. As you know the area is still unpopulated. On every continent – outside Europe – there are many areas that can provide us with a refuge. Canada can only benefit from a merciful decision. The special corner that will be granted to us will rapidly develop – six times greater than it would without us. Our feelings of patriotism toward the Empire that came to our rescue will be more enthusiastic and wiser than that of the emigrants who came to the United States.”

The “special corner” was meant to be in the province of Saskatchewan, as Jews who had fled from the first pogroms in Eastern Europe had already settled there. They were meant to absorb the new immigrants and to teach them how to work the land. Zangwill hoped that the Canadian prime minister, Wilfrid Laurier, would raise the issue with the British minister for the Colonies, Joseph Chamberlain, but the Canadians did not pursue Zangwill’s proposal and it was shelved.

The notion of resettling the Jews in Canada was dropped from the national agenda in 1906. It was only 35 years later that the term “resettlement” gained special notoriety.
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https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/saskatchewan
Saskatchewan's first Jewish resident was Max Goldstein, a Russian-born tailor who opened a store in Fort Qu'Appelle in 1877. During the Second Riel Rebellion in 1885 he served as quartermaster. In 1882 a Jewish farm project, called New Jerusalem, was started in the Moosomin area, but adverse conditions forced the settlers to give up. Numerous Jews were among those who laid tracks for the Canadian Pacific Railroad in the early 1880s.
After 1888 farm colonies were started which survived several generations. Jewish farm colonies were sometimes utopian ventures directed from above, and sometimes independent initiatives. The first colony was established in 1888, near Wapella. In 1892 the Young Men's Hebrew and Benevolent Society, on behalf of the Jewish Colonization Association (ICA), established the colony of Hirsch (named after Baron De Hirsch) in southern Saskatchewan; its initial group consisted of 47 Russian Jewish families. The first Jews to settle in the Wapella area were John Heppner and Abraham Kleiman. By 1892 there were 20 Jewish families, and young men interested in farming came to Wapella for their training. Hirsch had the oldest Jewish cemetery in the province, and was the site of the province's first synagogue building. The town had public schools, but also a Hebrew school, a shoḥet, and a Jewish community structure. Forty Jewish families (a total of 100 people) founded Lipton in 1901 with the help of ICA. They were taught by nearby Indians and Metis how to erect log houses chinked with clay and roofed with sod. In Lipton, too, Jewish teachers were engaged and a cemetery laid out. Edenbridge, also helped in its founding (1906) by ICA, was so named by its settlers. The name was conceived as "Yidn-Bridge" (Jews' Bridge), after a bridge across the Carrot River. The first settlers were 56 Lithuanian Jews who had lived in South Africa. Louis Vickar responded to an advertisement of the Canadian government offering 160 acres of virgin land for ten dollars. Edenbridge also had an active Jewish community. In the Sonnenfeld colony, which was aided in its founding (1906) by ICA, the villages of Oungre and Hoffer sprang up, the latter named after Moses Hoffer, the father of two brothers who were among the founders of the Sonnenfeld colony.
As was the case with others who settled in the west, many Jews did not succeed at farming, and left for the larger Jewish communities of western Canada. In addition to personal hardships, the great drought of the 1930s and the trend to mechanization and urbanization hastened the decline of Jewish farming. Of every 100 gainfully employed Jewish men in Saskatchewan in 1936, 11 were farmers and five were farm laborers. While the great majority of Jewish farmers in Canada in previous years were in Saskatchewan, since World War II the ICA devoted most of its efforts in Canada to Ontario, particularly the Niagara peninsula. The Jewish farm colonies are now mostly alive in memory alone. The Canadian government has placed the beautiful Beth Israel synagogue at Edenbridge on its national register of historic sites.
Regina, the capital of the province, had nine Jews in 1891, but the true beginnings of the present community would have to wait about 20 years. By the time of the 1911 census there were 130 residents. That year a shoḥet was hired, and services were held in his home. Two years later the members of the community erected a synagogue, Beth Jacob, with the lieutenant-governor of the province laying the cornerstone. In 1914 a building was rented to serve as a talmud torah, and 10 years later a building was erected to house it. In 1926 a central budgeting structure was created, and the Regina Federated Community was established. In 1951 the Beth Jacob Congregation built a new synagogue, with a new annex added four years later to house the school and the community center under one roof. At its height in 1931 there were just over 1,000 Jews. By 1951 the number had fallen to 740 and the 2001 census enumerated 720 Jews in Regina. In 2006 there were two synagogues in Regina. In addition to Beth Jacob, with its Conservative-style service, there was the Reform Temple Beth Tikvah, established in 1990. Because of the relatively high rate of interfaith marriages, some members of the community took the initiative to build a burial ground where Jewish and non-Jewish partners could lie next to each other, separated by a fence deemed halakhically acceptable. It opened in the summer of 2005.
The first known settlers of Saskatoon were William and Fanny Landa, who arrived in 1907 with their two children. The first minyan was on Rosh ha-Shanah in 1908. The members of the congregation Agudas Israel built a synagogue in 1912 and a new one was erected in 1919. In 1958 a Jewish community center was built that also served as a house of worship. Saskatoon had a Jewish mayor, Sydney Buckwold, for several terms. Agudas Israel became a Conservative congregation, and in March, 2000 Congregation Shir Chadash, also Conservative, was established. In 1911 the census counted 77 Jews. Since 1931 the number has hovered around 700 Jews, with as many as 793 Jews in 1961. The census of 2001 enumerated 700 Jews exactly, making it roughly the same size as Regina's community.
In addition to the settlements in the farm colonies and in the large urban centers, Jews settled in many of the small towns of rural Saskatchewan in the interwar period. In their time, Jewish general stores, like Chinese cafes, were part of small-town Saskatchewan. In the 1931 census there was at least one Jew in almost 200 cities, towns, villages or hamlets in the province. Sometimes Jews constituted a remarkably high percentage of the total population. Thus, for 1931, the demographer Louis Rosenberg noted that the "urban centre with the largest percentage of Jews in its population is not Montreal, Toronto, or some larger Eastern city, but is the little village of Lipton in Saskatchewan, where the Jewish population of 53 formed 15.01 % of its total population."


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...iaspora-a-study-in-apartheid/article16201295/


He said he is unlike his traditional Afrikaner forebears: D.F. Malan, his grandfather's cousin, was a National Party prime minister whose 1948 to 1954 government established some of the early apartheid policies. But Dr. Malan said he is still in regular contact with Archbishop Desmond Tutu, who gives him a hard time about coming to Canada. He thinks he may return to South Africa eventually.
"There's no reason for me to turn my back on South Africa," he added. "Never. It's still my country. … If I had another choice, if it would be better for my career there, I'd certainly be there tomorrow."
Colin Baskind left South Africa for Toronto in 1987, when the country was exploding with violence. "I left because I didn't see a future in South Africa for my kids, for me as a business person. My wife was petrified walking in the streets," said Mr. Baskind, a management consultant who is also chairman of the Southern African Jewish Association. He hasn't returned in 20 years and doesn't want to go back.
"I don't like it there," he said. "I honestly think as an immigrant you've got to say, 'I'm here, let's get on with it.'" His feelings about South Africa are in part shaped by his own reluctance to speak out politically while he lived there. "There's an inherent issue that I regret, and I really do, that I did nothing politically," he said.
South Africans are an unusually well-educated and wealthy group of migrants. Immigration data going back as far as 1980 shows that nearly 80 per cent of South Africans came as skilled migrants and just 3 per cent as refugees. One in four earns more than $200,000 annually, roughly the top 1 per cent in Canada, according to a survey of the post-1990 diaspora conducted by Prof. Crush; more than 40 per cent earn more than $100,000, equivalent to the top 6 per cent.
A partial explanation for such prosperity is the controversial recruitment of South Africa physicians to help address Canada's doctor shortage, making South Africa the leading source of foreign-trained doctors. There are roughly 2,500 practising here today. In 2001, the South African government publicly pleaded with Canada to stop recruiting its doctors after 200 decamped in a single year. The flow has slowed to about 60 annually, still the highest of any country.



The physicians were recruited to fill gaps in service all over the country, particularly in Saskatchewan and Newfoundland and often in rural areas and small towns. Charl Badenhorst, 62, came to Canada 10 years ago and now works in Fort St. John, B.C. He had been a top administrator at one of South Africa's largest psychiatric hospitals but felt his career was unlikely to progress in post-apartheid South Africa.
He was a liberal who had long opposed segregation. He sent his son, who is white, to a black school at a time when he was heavily criticized for doing so. But he wanted new academic challenges, which he could only find abroad, he said. He enjoys Fort St. John, where there are roughly 20 other South African physicians, but expects to return to South Africa some day.
"The older doctors like me, I think most of us want to go back at some stage," he said. "The younger doctors who came and have young children, they're more into the system here. They won't go back."
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13 First Nations come together to create new forestry agreement

Thirteen Indigenous communities who control more than 50 per cent of the provincial allocated and active wood supply in Saskatchewan have banded together.
An agreement signed between the Meadow Lace Cree Nation, Big River First Nation, Pelican Lake First nation, Witchekan Lake First Nation and the Meadow Lake Tribal Council was formalized in early December.
Al Balisky, CEO of the Meadow Lake Tribal Council Industrial Investments, said finalizing the agreement is the first step in executing the group's vision of "supporting continued Indigenous investment and influence" in the provincial forest and climate sectors.
The partners are all shareholders of two forestry management areas, which covers a large portion of the area north and west of Prince Albert.
Together, they are responsible for some four million cubic metres of the annual allowable cut in Saskatchewan.
"Our ancestral lands extend over more than two-thirds of Saskatchewan's commercial forest zone," Montreal Lake Cree Nation chief Frank Roberts said in a press release.
"The collective strength of the 13 First Nations represented by our groups coming together will allow for the best possible outcome for all of us."
Agreement protects Indigenous rights, lands
Rob Fincati, CEO of Montreal Lake Business Ventures, said all parties involved are excited about the future after the signing of the agreement.
"We see this as a way to really assert our ancestral, territorial rights," Fincati told CBC News.
He said beyond asserting those rights, the agreement between the bands is also a way to protect their assets in dealings with forestry corporations.
A launch pad for more business ventures
The agreement is a continuation of a business relationship between bands who have historically worked together according to Fincati.
He said the Meadow Lake Tribal Council and the Prince Albert Grand Council have previously worked together as partners in different business ventures and he hoped the new forestry agreement builds on that relationship.
Meadow Lake Tribal Council chief Richard Ben said there are plans to start cooperating more in all business opportunities.
"Forestry is a good start," Ben said through a press release.
"We all have a common interest in making sure we are all on the same page when it comes to strategy, maximizing benefits and above all, taking care of the land."
Fincati said one of the objectives of the bands in the agreement was to bring a pulp mill back to the Prince Albert region.
The former pulp mill closed in 2006, affecting roughly 2,000 jobs. It was purchased by Paper Excellence in 2011 in the hopes of reopening in 2013, but those plans never materialized.
"There's a real need for a facility in the Prince Albert area," Fincati said. "It's still uncertain on when Paper Excellence is going to open or not."
A non-compete clause forbids Paper Excellence from producing kraft pulp until 2020.


Nothing in this site saying that Natives own 1/2 the forest, WTF?

https://www.saskatchewan.ca/busines...ources-and-industry/forestry/forest-licensing
 

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I knew they tried and failed at logging and may still hold some logging rights, but they are trying to sell the public that they own the Crown land?
 

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Land they stole from Dene?

If they had to get logging Rights from tbe Province, that clearly means they know it's not theirs.
 

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I see where this all comes from now a deal reached between a forestry company and agreed to by the Gov. this from a Native news organization

https://ammsa.com/publications/windspeaker/saskatchewan-native-get-say-over-logging-2

An agreement between Saskatchewan and a forestry company establishing a partnership for co-managing timber harvests is giving Natives greater say over logging in the province's north.
Environment and Resources Management Minister Berny Wiens and NorSask Products Inc. chairman Ray Cariou signed a memorandum of understand Dec. 20 to work as partners with forestry co-management board in five northern communities.

The agreement will allow Natives from the communities of Waterhen, Canoe Lake, Dillon, Buffalo Narrows and Beauval to establish limits to NorSask's logging operations in the region.
"We started the co-management with the Natives," Cariou said. "We brought in leaders, both Metis and First Nations Elders, and they all said 'we want some say in what goes on in our backyards'."
The goal of the agreement is to strike a balance between the province. NorSask and the northern communities over protecting the environment through wise use of forest resources and forest renewal," Wiens said.
"This agreement ensures northern residents will have a direct say in integrated resource planning and how the forest resources are managed in their areas."
The co-management will also involve Mistik Management Inc., which is in part owned by the Meadow Lake Tribal Council. Mistik and the regional co-management boards will determine such things as where harvesting is done, where roads are built, the method of harvesting and reforestation requirements.

Response to community guidelines has been good so far, Canoe Lake Chief Guy Lariviere said. When a group of Elders on the Canoe Lake co-management board voiced their concerns last month over the size and types of harvesting, NorSask agreed to follow their guidelines.
"People are saying, 'hey, wait a minute, this is actually working'."
The Canoe Lake co-management board has outlawed large clear-cuts and the use of automated harvesters. All trees are cut by men with chain-saws, and grapple skidders, which are used to haul the logs out, are the only heavy machinery that is allowed.
The Canoe Lake Indian Band signed an interim co-management agreement with NorSask last October to limit the size of clear-cuts. The signing marked the end to a year - and-a-half long protest by some Canoe Lake residents who formed a protest group Protectors of Mother Earth Society. They blockaded a logging road in the Wiggins Bay area, 65 kilometres north of Meadow Lake on Highway 903, where they built cabins and lived year-round.

The protesters wanted to end NorSask's clear-cutting and see compensation given to traditional land users in lieu of damage done by forestry companies.
The blockade was originally removed by the province in June 1992, but many protesters returned to the site shortly thereafter. A provincial judge ordered their eviction last summer.
The December agreement will be the start for further negotiations, Cariou said. The province has co-management boards in five of the 10 cutting regions at the moment.
NorSask has a Forest Management Licence Agreement for 1.7 million hectares of commercial forests in northwest Saskatchewan. It is the first company to develop a network of local co-management boards within its FMLA.

So they are trying to change the narrative to they own the timber rights on over 1/2 the provinces forest, when it's just a co-management agreement with a timber company, and now trying to impose it on the new pulp mill operators in PA