Of course it is a nonsense idea, Mowich. That is why I didn’t’ comment on it before. Ellesmere Island indeed. Why not put them in Niagara Falls or Stanley Park? That won’t be any more absurd than putting them on Ellesmere Island.
Life on death row, kind of a cake walk.
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Of course it is a nonsense idea, Mowich. That is why I didn’t’ comment on it before. Ellesmere Island indeed. Why not put them in Niagara Falls or Stanley Park? That won’t be any more absurd than putting them on Ellesmere Island.
Let 'em stay with you-know-who.... Coupla weeks of that and they'll be begging for the noose....
Death penalty is never right. It is always wrong. That is why all the developed countries (except USA and Japan) have abolished it. Even some developing counties have abolished death penalty (e.g. Mexico).
What? Are you calling my idea "nonsense?!?" I thought it was perfectly reasonable, in that the death penalty issue would never need to be raised again. (Which it could, if the Conservatives ever get a majority...you never know)
As to the choice of locations, the idea was to keep them as far away from the population centres as possible, in case they did escape. I'm just trying to come up with a way to protect the innocent people that could otherwise be threatened by these ne'er-do-wells. And, one doesn't locate a sewer lagoon in plain view of the public, as it's equally as distasteful. A civilized country like ours does have to maintain a sense of decorum, doesn't it?
No, I doubt that placing it in Niagara Falls or Stanley Park would offer any net benefits to society. Besides, we're talking about punishment for heinous crimes, not rewards for doing good deeds...there is quite a difference!
It's all shaping up to be a win/win/win...the citizens win their safety, the government would no longer have to finance our expensive prison system, and then of course, the taxpayers win too.
Like I said, this concept seems to be gathering even more steam as we discuss it and improve it right here in the CC Forum...a very valuable medium for thoughtful examination of worthwhile subjects such as this.
I don’t see that happening even if Harper gets a majority, countryboy. As I have said before, he is only pretending to govern from center right; he may actually belong to the far right.
So it is not inconceivable that he will try to bring it back. In that, he will fail miserably. First, not all Conservative MPs support death penalty. My guess would be that significant number of MPs from Ontario and perhaps all the MPS from Québec will be opposed to it.
Seeing that almost all the opposition MPs will be opposed to it, chance are very good that the legislation will get nowhere. When Mulroney tried to bring back death penalty with a Conservative majority, he failed miserably.
However, even if by dint of threats, bullying and intimidation Harper can get it through the Parliament, the Supreme Court will quash it in an instance. Death penalty is not in keeping with what the developed countries in the world do, it probably violates the Charter, and I don’t see Supreme Court agreeing to setting the clock on human rights back by 50 years, just to make Harper happy.
Plus, if he digs up the settled issue of death penalty, that is tantamount to committing political suicide and next election Conservatives will be lucky if they don’t end up in the third place, behind NDP.
I am sure Harper realizes all this, he is not stupid. So no matter how much he may want to bring back the death penalty, I seriously doubt that he will try to.
But in a way you are right. If religious right and some extremist right wingers have their way, Harper will ban abortion, bring back generous use of death penalty, ban homosexuality, restrict availability of contraception, mandate teaching of Book of Genesis in schools etc. Does that sound like Utopia to you?
I seriously doubt if Harper will try any of these, if he knows what is good for him (and he does).
Really? Then i suggest you send it to Harper. Who knows, he may even make you the Minister of Justice, so that you can implement it.
Thank you for suggesting that. However, I think it's not quite ready for official presentation yet - still needs a few more details. That's why I put it out here for discussion...can always use more input to get things "just right.
"The point here is not whether Peterson is guilty or innocent, JLM. The point is that death penalty is wrong."- That is a bit different from what you said in the past when you said, the reason was the risk of executing an innocent person.
You don't understand law any more than you understand anything else.
You should brush up on the legal term 'murder' in Canada.
Bingo- it is an opinion which doesn't necessarily make it wrong. I say if it saves one innocent child's life then it's RIGHT.
I don't think you are being very practical, their box of matches would be useless on an iceberg.............................:smile::smile::smile:
Now that's catchy. I like it. We can make it our chant when we go after the lawmakers. :lol::lol::lol: