Unforgiven Seems to me this is how you feel about gun ownership. Why the flip flop here?[/QUOTE said:
A sobering warning.
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if that happened to my cousin id hunt the guy down and then when the cops got me youd have faith in the system
I haven't heard anything of charges against the bar who served or the bouncer who gave chase to a drunk who killed three kids in Sudbury.
CTV Toronto - Suspected drunk driver kills three Sudbury-area teens - CTV News
Well- I'd go for 0.0000000000000000000000002- don't want to deprive a guy of his Xmas pudding.
the law should be changed to zero. The SS oh I mean 'police' in Ontario will take punitive action in the form of confiscating your car for 72 hrs and suspending you license as well with no charges even being laid. Sounds like the cops are the judge and jury at the road side.
Unf.
I think not. I think you could drive and blow under but that is not applicable in Ontario anymore. Especially Torono.
Unf.
I think not. I think you could drive and blow under but that is not applicable in Ontario anymore. Especially Torono.
Yeah flip flop. Gun ownership doesn't have anything at all to do with drinking and driving. I don't know if you have made any comments lately or not.
The point is your meaning that took from what you said about guns is that everyone should be judged on their own merit, so if you commit a crime with a gun then you should be investigated and if need be charged. Otherwise it's none of the government's business if you have a gun or what you do with it.
Here you seem to be advocating that the government step in and make sure that no one can have a drink and drive a car that day. For the safety of everyone on the road I guess. Which is exactly a flip flop of your other argument.
Personal responsibility vs the Nanny State. Is this incorrect?
Well I don't drive when I've had too much to drink to drive responsibly and safely. But when I do, the police don't bother me. The few times they have ever stopped me when I have been drinking, they haven't even bothered to pull out the test kit.
I agree with the sentiment about the Ontario Police though. Toronto is a hotbed for over eager Neanderthal cops.
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can possibly equate gun ownership with car ownership, and you can possibly equate care and use of a gun while under the influence with care and use of a car while under the under the influence, but can't compare them individually with drinking. :smile:
Agreed. It's the old axiom. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Oh god I hope they don't rerun Beretta.
Isn't he doing time?
Correction - acquitted on appeal, then dinged for wrongful death (like OJ)
Correction - acquitted on appeal, then dinged for wrongful death (like OJ)
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Yep, and yet so many otherwise law abiding people do it. (I was as guilty as anyone 30 years ago)- hopefully maybe people reading this will save two lives.
This is going to be hard as I'll have to stick to a vocabulary a grade 3 student can understand. Guns don't do anything any more than a hammer does anything any more than a car does anything. If you are going to outlaw guns, then you may as well outlaw bows and knives and tire irons. Get the picture? :lol:
Let me see if I understand you correctly- you think you should be legally able to drive after having one drink? What about your neighbour who can't handle driving after one drink? Should he be legally able to drive too? Now take the guy making the laws, how does he know who can drive safely after one drink? How can he ensure us the roads will be safe if everyone is allowed to drink & drive? :smile:
There will always be bad drivers. Drinking or not drinking in moderation won't change that. I am legally able to drive after one drink. That's the law right now. What makes you think my neighbour can't drive after one drink? You don't know him. If you feel that you can't drive after one drink then please don't drive. But don't project your inability on me. I can drive just fine after one drink. The law agrees with that.
You're missing the whole frickin' point..........................ah forget it. :roll:
