Trudeau’s Newest New Carbon Tax

Jinentonix

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Hey man, someone's gotta pony up for Trudeau hopping aboard his private airliner every 10-14 days. That fucking cunt leaves a bigger carbon footprint than my family does ffs.
 
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Ron in Regina

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BC produces oil, gas, and coal. Also everything west of OntariOWE gets exported through BC. Are we getting a break because the surfing is good in Tofino?
But BC is a smaller scale of the “bad” compared to AB, SK, & NL in the eyes of our current fed Gov’t…& how does it vote federally? It (BC) does get the distinction of the highest road fuel costs in North America though so don’t feel left out. Our kids out there (in BC) get the privilege of heating their home with electricity so thank God the climate in the Okanogan is mild in the winter compared to the prairies….
Because you pay a Provincial carbon tax.

How much us gas there now? $17 a litre?
Our fuel subsidy formula/program has to have BC factored in separately to not skew the numbers for the entire continent.
 

Taxslave2

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Since oil belongs to the province, and the province is owned by the citizens, why are we paying tax on a product we already own? There must be a lot of terminally stupid people in BC.
 

Ron in Regina

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Atlantic premiers have started to push back against the planned increase in the federal carbon tax that will hit their region particularly hard. As the parliamentary budget officer (PBO) has pointed out, that tax will be costly to Canadian families.

Trudeau, along with his environment and natural resources ministers, has been claiming that the rebates to families will compensate for the tax. The PBO has proven otherwise.

There are different public policy tools that exist to try to deal with carbon pollution.

The approach can be regulatory, with statutory limits and fines for non-compliant companies, for example. But that requires enforcement, an area where Canada has constantly fallen short.

It can also take the form of a cap-and-trade system that will actually guarantee a result. You impose a ceiling on overall emissions and gradually lower the ceiling. This compels polluters to either lower their emissions or be forced to purchase credits from other more successful operations.

As for a carbon tax, yes, it could eventually reduce our greenhouse gas (GHG) output by discouraging consumption of fossil fuels as they become more expensive. But what we are in fact seeing is that Canadian families who often live in large rural areas, with no public transit, are simply using an increasingly large part of their tight budgets to be able to still get around.

That’s where the plea of the Atlantic premiers has to be heard. It’s too easy to dismiss them as rubes who don’t get it. They do….& this just sounds so familiar for some reason???
 

Ron in Regina

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On July 1, the Trudeau government is imposing another cost on emissions called the clean fuel regulations, which will raise the price of gasoline by up to 17-cents-per-litre by 2030, according to the PBO, on top of a 37.57-cents-per-litre increase due to the federal carbon tax at that time.

All of this raises the question of why the U.S. by relying on technological innovation, without a carbon ax, has been more successful at cutting emissions than Canada with one.

Why doesn’t Prime Minister Justin Trudeau ever criticize U.S. President Joe Biden for failing to impose a national carbon tax on Americans?

Aren’t we constantly being told putting a price on greenhouse gas emissions is the best way to combat climate change?

If so, why doesn’t our largest trading partner have one?
 

Ron in Regina

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What would happen, in the US, if fuel was $3.50/gallon….& Biden came out and slapped a $1.50 carbon tax on top of that (?) taking the cost to $5.00/gallon? How would that go over?

It’s only a 30% increase across the board, to not only personal transport, but to everything that gets moved by train or plane or truck…so just eat it. Would that fly?
 
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Jinentonix

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I do have empathy for them. Labrador & Newfoundland more so that the other Atlantic Provinces….but I get it. Nobody (few I guess) would look forward to a financial jailhouse rape.
I don't feel sorry for them (or anyone else that votes Liberal and then whines about carbon taxes). They keep voting for the idiot that keeps doing this shit.
 

Ron in Regina

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Wildfires in Canada and unseasonably high temperatures in Europe are being blamed on climate change, escalating the perceived urgency to “do something” about carbon emissions. In Canada, it seems no volume of emissions is too small to worry about. B.C. taxpayers will soon be paying some $28 million to connect cruise ships docking in Victoria to electric shore power so diesel generators can be shut down. This must set a world record in terms of the cost per unit of avoided emissions.

We’re also on track to establish a coast-to-coast cost record on emissions reductions through ever-rising carbon taxes on motor fuel plus deliberate debilitation of the oil and gas industry — though it contributes the largest share of both GDP and export revenue of any industry.

Motorists in B.C., Manitoba, Ontario and Quebec are already paying average federal and provincial gasoline taxes of 15.4 cents/litre, plus carbon taxes of 14 cents for a total of 29.4 cents/litre. The federal carbon tax is scheduled to increase to 37 cents/litre by 2030, taking average gasoline taxes to 52.4 cents/litre.

But that’s not all. On Canada Day the feds also imposed their “clean fuel standard,” a scheme requiring providers of motor fuels to progressively reduce “carbon intensity.” Environment and Climate Change Canada says this will raise gasoline costs another 17 cents/litre.

Adding these together means motorists in provinces making up 80 per cent of Canada’s population will be paying average motor fuel taxes of 69.4 cents/litre by 2030. In the U.S. by contrast, total federal and state gasoline taxes average just 11.7 cents per litre — with absolutely no sign of increasing.

The Parliamentary Budget Officer has concluded these rising motor fuel taxes are “broadly regressive,” meaning the economic impact will fall disproportionately on lower-income people already struggling to pay the rising cost of groceries and other necessities. And the cost of all those necessities will be driven even higher by carbon taxes levied on the fuels used to produce and deliver them.

How ironic that a self-described “progressive” Liberal government kept in power by the deeply socialist NDP — both supposedly dedicated to protecting the poor — is fighting a war on carbon emissions on the backs of those who can least afford it.

Speaking of people who can least afford carbon taxes, a just-published study entitled “How will Atlantic Canada fare under the carbon tax?” found that the two most populous Maritime provinces will be the hardest hit. Nova Scotia’s reliance on power generated from high-taxed coal will see its power production costs rising an estimated 109 per cent, while those in New Brunswick will climb 42 per cent.

Good times. The rest at the above link.

(Calculations using data from the Government of Canada’s Greenhouse Gas Emissions website show that, if all our gasoline and diesel-powered cars and trucks were taken off the road for one year, the total emissions avoided would offset China’s emissions for just 58 hours)
 
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Wildfires in Canada and unseasonably high temperatures in Europe are being blamed on climate change,
Meanwhile in reality...

Solar Maximum Is Coming

The flare comes as the sun is approaching solar maximum, a heightened period of activity every 9-14 years. Although it was predicted to occur in 2024 or 2025, some scientists think solar maximum could occur in 2023.

The evidence is mounting, with 163 sunspots—areas of intense magnetic activity on the surface of the sun—counted on the sun, on average, during June 2023. It’s the highest value since September 2002, according to the Royal Observatory of Belgium’s Solar Influences Data Analysis Center.
 

Ron in Regina

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The Canadian government better tax that right away before it….Does whatever it does…to encourage it to do something else….right? Make it an annually increasing tax so that it’s a real burden before the next solar maximum in 9 to 14 years.
 

55Mercury

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The Canadian government better tax that right away before it….Does whatever it does…to encourage it to do something else….right? Make it an annually increasing tax so that it’s a real burden before the next solar maximum in 9 to 14 years.
tax the Sun?

hmm... what would happen if we taxed it with our nuclear waste? like haul it into space and then give it a shove toward the sun?
though I think it's unclear what fate that nuclear waste solution might provoke.

yeah, prolly not a good idea

:?D