Trans Lives Matter protesters occupy Oklahoma Capitol building (but when trump supporters do it then it's an insurrection)

[The_Foxer]

Trans Lives Matter protesters occupy the Oklahoma State Capitol

The protesters from Oklahomans For Equality and Freedom Oklahoma started their demonstration outside the building, then moved indoors. It's unclear if any lawmakers were inside.

www.dailymail.co.uk

So the state wants to prevent youths from having permanent gender surgeries and treatments till they're older and the transactivists feel a child of any age should be able to make that kind of permanent life altering decisions.

At least the republicans make reasonable concessions. "Hey, we're not saying never, just wait till you're an adult and can make decisions."

whereas the dems are like "If you're old enough to walk, you're old enough to cut your culture-based gender.

Why do we recognize that children aren't old enough to choose their bedtime but insist they're old enough to choose to medically alter their sex?

 

[harrylee]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.............I thought only BLM people had the right to say who's lives matter......Wassup?

 

[The_Foxer]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.............I thought only BLM people had the right to say who's lives matter......Wassup?

Trans is higher on the intersectional totem right now so BLM has to suck it.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

So the state wants to prevent youths from having permanent gender surgeries and treatments till they're older and the transactivists feel a child of any age should be able to make that kind of permanent life altering decisions.

Well, to be fair, we made some life-altering decisions (and potentially life-ending decisions) when we were just sprouts. . .

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Well, to be fair, we made some life-altering decisions (and potentially life-ending decisions) when we were just sprouts. . .

I don't think half the stuff I did as a kid is legal anymore. If my kid had done any of them I would have been arrested for child abuse.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I don't think half the stuff I did as a kid is legal anymore. If my kid had done any of them I would have been arrested for child abuse.

And, ironically, half the illegal stuff you did is probably legal now.

80% in BC.

 

[The_Foxer]

Well, to be fair, we made some life-altering decisions (and potentially life-ending decisions) when we were just sprouts. . .

Like what.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Like what.

Let me check out some Oklahoma and Federal statutes of limitations, and I'll get back to you.

 

[The_Foxer]

And, ironically, half the illegal stuff you did is probably legal now.

80% in BC.

Not really. In bc it was barely illegal to smoke dope - but you could pretty much do it anywhere. Now - it's legal to smoke dope but it's pretty much illegal to smoke anything in 90 percent of the province. Can't smoke in most apartment buildings now and they're thinking of making that manditory, can't smoke in most plublic places, etc etc.

We sure as hell ain't gaining freedoms.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Not really. In bc it was barely illegal to smoke dope - but you could pretty much do it anywhere. Now - it's legal to smoke dope but it's pretty much illegal to smoke anything in 90 percent of the province. Can't smoke in most apartment buildings now and they're thinking of making that manditory, can't smoke in most plublic places, etc etc.

We sure as hell ain't gaining freedoms.

Oh, you poor, stupid child.

You never get freedoms. If it's a "freedom," it's a permission from the government, rescindable at any time (without notice).

 

[The_Foxer]

Oh, you poor, stupid child.

You never get freedoms. If it's a "freedom," it's a permission from the government, rescindable at any time (without notice).

Well we never get permission from the gov't to do anything so it would seem you're correct then, we never do get freedoms

Also, was the first sentance and the second two connected or was that just a random insult? Sometimes it's hard to tell with you... And final note i might LOOK poor but i've got 15 years worth of refundable pop bottles in the big shed so i'm actually deposit-rich! (i call it my plastic pension!)

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Well we never get permission from the gov't to do anything so it would seem you're correct then, we never do get freedoms

Also, was the first sentance and the second two connected or was that just a random insult? Sometimes it's hard to tell with you... And final note i might LOOK poor but i've got 15 years worth of refundable pop bottles in the big shed so i'm actually deposit-rich! (i call it my plastic pension!)

Cool beans. Yeah, the first sentence was insulting, but the intent was ironic, not a personal shot.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

By the way, what would you call storming a building with the stated intention of interrupting legitimate government business, murdering the Vice-President of the United States, and continuing in office a president who had lost the election according to the laws and Constitution?

If you don't like "insurrection," will "attempted coup" suffice?

Or are you still stuck on "normal tourist visit" with "legitimate political discourse?"

 

[Ron in Regina]

In the US, isn’t that called Tuesday? By the way, how did all those freaks on January 6 show up unarmed in a nation with the highest per capita Pew-Pew 6-Shooters anywhere anyway?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

In the US, isn’t that called Tuesday? By the way, how did all those freaks on January 6 show up unarmed in a nation with the highest per capita Pew-Pew 6-Shooters anywhere anyway?

Only if Tuesday has never happened before.

I didn't say they were competent, just traitors.

 

[The_Foxer]

By the way, what would you call storming a building with the stated intention of interrupting legitimate government business, murdering the Vice-President of the United States, and continuing in office a president who had lost the election according to the laws and Constitution?

At this point, fiction It never happened. And it was never going to happen. Seriously did you honestly think that somehow they could just demand trump was president and that was it? Even if they HAD murdered Pence, which they absolutely did not, democracy would not have been threatened in the slightest. There is no scenario where they get to take over the gov't just by storming a building.

But they did occupy a building. Like these guys.

 

[The_Foxer]

I didn't say they were competent, just traitors.

Well they're not traitors. Traitors is when you help an enemy nation, not when you try to take over the gov't. Insurrection? well, that's closer but they didn't really want to take over the gov't as i understand it, they felt that trump legitimately won. An insurrection is where you attempt to overthrow a lawful gov't, if they don't think it's a lawful gov't then it's not quite the right word. Rebels would be closer still, refusing to accept the legitmacy of an established gov't to rule for various reasons. But honestly if you want something most accurate i'd just go with morons.

 

[Serryah]

Well, to be fair, we made some life-altering decisions (and potentially life-ending decisions) when we were just sprouts. . .

To be fair, I don't think the actual article was read before posting. Cause sure it's talking about 'youth', but apparently youth now extends to mean anyone up to age 26.

Cause "mental maturity" is now an excuse to prevent choice.

And other stuff that isn't practised, but I'm sure people will say it is.

By the way, what would you call storming a building with the stated intention of interrupting legitimate government business, murdering the Vice-President of the United States, and continuing in office a president who had lost the election according to the laws and Constitution?

If you don't like "insurrection," will "attempted coup" suffice?

Or are you still stuck on "normal tourist visit" with "legitimate political discourse?"

Course there were huge differences between this - an actual, peaceful protest - and Jan 6, but don't let those facts get in the way of anything.

 

[The_Foxer]

Course there were huge differences between this - an actual, peaceful protest - and Jan 6, but don't let those facts get in the way of anything

But we were assured by the left that the difference between jan 6 and other similar protests, such as the violent black lives matter protests, was the capture of a gov't building. That it was the seizing of the building itself that made them 'traitors' and 'insurgents' rather than protesters.

So is the REAL difference that you sympathize with these people and their rights but just don't like the other ones? Is that the difference in the minds of the left between 'insurrection' and 'protest'? Because that would be pretty sad.

 

[pgs]

By the way, what would you call storming a building with the stated intention of interrupting legitimate government business, murdering the Vice-President of the United States, and continuing in office a president who had lost the election according to the laws and Constitution?

If you don't like "insurrection," will "attempted coup" suffice?

Or are you still stuck on "normal tourist visit" with "legitimate political discourse?"

Who was planning to murder the Vice President of those there not so United States ?