How Much Time Does the U.S. Have?

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by Charles S. LiMandri
A friend recently asked: “How long do we have left as a society?” In answer to that question I informed her about an interesting and comprehensive study that a renowned British anthropologist, Joseph Unwin, PhD., presented to the British Psychological Society in 1935. Unwin sought to prove that the traditional monogamous model for marriage was not essential to the maintenance of a healthy society. After studying 86 different cultures, across time and continents –and much to his surprise — he came to the inescapable conclusion that the traditional male-female monogamous model for marriage was indeed the best foundation for a healthy and productive society.
Unwin found that societies that adopted this model typically took about three generations to reach their peak of productivity and progress. After that, frequently, a gradual development of complacency and licentiousness would take place and what he described as an ”outburst of homosexuality” would sometimes occur. When that happened, and the society started to move away from the traditional model of male-female monogamous marriage as its foundation, it would begin to unravel. It would then take another three generations of deterioration from that point for the society to collapse.
It is my opinion that between the end of the American Civil War and the Reconstruction of the South, proceeding through the Industrial Revolution, and continuing up until about the end of World War II in 1945, the U.S. reached its zenith. Then came the U.S. Supreme Court’s Everson decision in 1947 which imposed an unconstitutional “Wall of Separation” between Church and State. This directly contradicted the vision of the founding fathers. Upon his farewell address to the nation, George Washington tried to impress upon his fellow countrymen that it was “Religion and Morality” that served as the foundation for our young nation.
Our thinking about human sexuality was transformed in the late 1940’s and early 1950’s by Alfred Kinsey, using false and fraudulent statistics — including the 10% myth concerning the number of homosexuals in the population. His work was based largely on the deviant sexual practices reported by those in prison. His flawed conclusions were not surprising since 86% of convicted child molesters against males describe themselves as being either homosexual or bisexual. A young college student at the time, Hugh Hefner, was influenced by Kinsey’s work and started what was to become the Playboy empire which in turn helped launch the sexual revolution of the 1960’s.
The U.S. Supreme Court decision in Griswold in 1965 (which found a new constituitional “right to privacy” for contraception) was the next big judicial construct. This in turn helped fuel the feminist revolution of the 1970’s since women were no longer “chained to their homes” by babies to raise. But, since contraception does not always work, the U.S. Supreme Court had to find a new application for the constitutional right to privacy, which it did in Roe v. Wade in 1973. This travesty of a judicial decision allowed for abortion on-demand. With the new influx of contracepting and “liberated” women in the workplace, having more extramarital affairs than ever, it was of course necessary to adopt liberal No-Fault Divorce laws. In this way, the cheating spouses could easily get out of their lifelong marital commitments with little or no legal penalty or social stigma.
This in turn created the situation where there were far more little boys growing up with no strong male role models at home and far more little girls being raised with no father or by step-fathers more likely to sexually abuse them (e.g. Ellen DeGeneres). In either event, we increased the number of male and female homosexuals by enhancing the risk factors for developmental gender confusion and the psycho-social deficits which eventually lead to the same-sex attraction. Hence, the need for yet another constitutional right to privacy to be announced by the U.S. Supreme Court in the horrific Lawrence decision in 2003 — this time for homosexual sodomy. Thus, what started with the uncoupling of sexuality and procreation in the Griswold (contraception) case has now reached its unnatural conclusion with the legalization and normalization of homosexual sodomy in the Lawrence case. After all, if sex is only about adult emotional attachments, and not procreation, then why not homosexuality?
Of course, the downward slide of our society has been greatly accelerated by the explosion of pornography on the Internet which has weakened the natural romantic attraction between young people and replaced it with unbridled selfish sexual gratification. This has further lessened the natural resistance and even revulsion to various sexual perversions. Indeed, just this past week we have witnessed the sitting Chief Appellate Justice of the largest federal judicial district in the nation, posting disgusting sexual images on his website (involving people and animals) while presiding over a pornography trial involving beastiality and extreme fetishes. Where does all of this lead us — to same-sex “marriage,” of course. And how much time do we have left by Unwin’s standards — I would say that we are at least at the end of the second generation of deterioration, if not already well into the final third generation before the collapse.
Can we stop this societal suicide — possibly, but not if we can’t stop same-sex “marriage” in California in November 2008, and not without supernatural help. Without the foundation of Religion and Morality that George Washingoton and the other founding fathers provided for us, there is simply no real hope for the future of this country.
Finally, since it is only in our maleness and femaleness that we are made in the image and likeness of God, the destruction of the concept of gender is perhaps Satan’s greatest accomplishment. Moreover, since the sacramental marriage of a husband and wife is used to image the relationship of Christ and His Church, even the idea of same-sex ”marriage” is a sacrilege. Therefore, separate and apart from the seemingly accurate prognastications of Professor Unwin, I just don’t see how a God of Justice can tolerate such a diabolical mockery of His divinely ordained instituion of marriage for very long. Indeed, the same man to whom our Lord entrusted the Keys to the Kingdom warned us that: “…in the last days there shall come deceitful scoffers, walking after their own lusts… ” (2 Peter 3:3). In conclusion, I informed my friend that although we have had the privilege of living in the greatest nation in the history of the world, based on the foregoing, we may very well be seeing it in its waning years. May the God of our fathers have mercy on us and our beloved country.

Charles LiMandri is the General Counsel for the National Organization for Marriage (www.NOMCalifornia.org). In that capacity he has been very active in the effort to pass a constitutional amendment to protect marriage in California which will be on the ballot in November 2008. He is a member of the Religious Liberty Committee of the California Catholic Conference of Bishops and he serves on an advisory committee to the White House on issues of importance to Catholics.
 

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by Charles S. LiMandri
A friend recently asked: “How long do we have left as a society?” In answer to that question I informed her about an interesting and comprehensive study that a renowned British anthropologist, Joseph Unwin, PhD., presented to the British Psychological Society in 1935. Unwin sought to prove that the traditional monogamous model for marriage was not essential to the maintenance of a healthy society. After studying 86 different cultures, across time and continents –and much to his surprise — he came to the inescapable conclusion that the traditional male-female monogamous model for marriage was indeed the best foundation for a healthy and productive society.
Unwin found that societies that adopted this model typically took about three generations to reach their peak of productivity and progress. After that, frequently, a gradual development of complacency and licentiousness would take place and what he described as an ”outburst of homosexuality” would sometimes occur. When that happened, and the society started to move away from the traditional model of male-female monogamous marriage as its foundation, it would begin to unravel. It would then take another three generations of deterioration from that point for the society to collapse.

Well this goes to prove that even big wigs with PhD's can still be idiots.

It is my opinion that between the end of the American Civil War and the Reconstruction of the South, proceeding through the Industrial Revolution, and continuing up until about the end of World War II in 1945, the U.S. reached its zenith. Then came the U.S. Supreme Court’s Everson decision in 1947 which imposed an unconstitutional “Wall of Separation” between Church and State.

Unconstitutional or not, it's basic common sense.... There is a seperation between church and state because not everybody follows your church..... and then there's the devisions of that church into other sects..... exactly which church get's the authority? Christian? Jewish? Muslim? Budist?

The State is for everybody, the Church is for whoever decides they want to be a part of it. They can use their teachings in their church to set their way of life for themselves, but they have no right screwing around in my or anybody else's business who isn't a part of your religion, plain and simple.

This directly contradicted the vision of the founding fathers.

The Vision of the founding fathers were mostly either Freemason (George Washington) or Illuminati until they were forcefully disbanded in the public eye..... certainly not Christian, so give up trying to tell us what their vision was or what you imagined it to be.

"Several sources suggest that the Bavarian Illuminati survived, and perhaps even exists today. Conspiracy theorists highlight the link between the Illuminati and Freemasonry. It is also suggested that the United States' founding fathers - some being Freemasons - were rife with corruption from the Illuminati. Often the symbol of the all-seeing pyramid in the Great Seal of the United States is cited as an example of the Illuminati's ever-present watchful eye over Americans."

^ So if that's true, it contradicts what you believe the vision the founding fathers had for the US.

Upon his farewell address to the nation, George Washington tried to impress upon his fellow countrymen that it was “Religion and Morality” that served as the foundation for our young nation.

It doesn't matter what he said, it matters what was written down as law. And Morality isn't exclusive to any religious organization, but the individual.

Our thinking about human sexuality was transformed in the late 1940’s and early 1950’s by Alfred Kinsey, using false and fraudulent statistics — including the 10% myth concerning the number of homosexuals in the population.

Give me a break, how ignorant can a person get? And you're right, it isn't 10%, it's more then that these days, get used to it.

His work was based largely on the deviant sexual practices reported by those in prison. His flawed conclusions were not surprising since 86% of convicted child molesters against males describe themselves as being either homosexual or bisexual.

And 98.68% of all Statistics are either made up on the spot or skewed to suit one side of an argument, and can not be relied on anything other then emotional appeal.

Exactly how many of those Priests who molested little boys were gay or bisexual? In fact, how many of that 86% statistic were leaders of a religious organization in their communities?

Kinda screws your whole argument up doesn't it?

A young college student at the time, Hugh Hefner, was influenced by Kinsey’s work and started what was to become the Playboy empire which in turn helped launch the sexual revolution of the 1960’s.

Dirty Mags and Films have been kicking around long before Playboy started..... they just got most of the attention at the time because they fought the censors.

So what?

The U.S. Supreme Court decision in Griswold in 1965 (which found a new constituitional “right to privacy” for contraception) was the next big judicial construct. This in turn helped fuel the feminist revolution of the 1970’s since women were no longer “chained to their homes” by babies to raise.

Ah yes, it all comes out now.... darn, no more women forced as house slaves for the men who think they own the world.

But, since contraception does not always work, the U.S. Supreme Court had to find a new application for the constitutional right to privacy, which it did in Roe v. Wade in 1973. This travesty of a judicial decision allowed for abortion on-demand.

Get used to it.... guess what? Millions of unborn babies are killed every year around the world.... sleep well tonight.

With the new influx of contracepting and “liberated” women in the workplace, having more extramarital affairs than ever, it was of course necessary to adopt liberal No-Fault Divorce laws.

Yes, because Men are completely innocent of those same actions..... cripes this is retarded..... why the hell am I reading this?

In this way, the cheating spouses could easily get out of their lifelong marital commitments with little or no legal penalty or social stigma.

Well if their husbands are abusive, acoholic, womanizing bastards, why the hell should they be forced to live the rest of their lives with them? Because their parents forced them into it because they got pregnant and it was the "Religious thing to do?"

Yeah, that works just wonderfully..... if there were no divorces available, we'd have more and more murder suicide families on the news then we already do. But hey.... I guess that's the cost we all have to pay just to please your morals.

This in turn created the situation where there were far more little boys growing up with no strong male role models at home and far more little girls being raised with no father or by step-fathers more likely to sexually abuse them (e.g. Ellen DeGeneres).

What a pile of sh*t, seriously where the hell did this guy get his education, from the back of a scientologists' cereal box?

And Ellen isn't a Step Father Molester Wanna-Be.... she's a homosexual female, with a job, income and a stable life compared to most..... she's probably more qualified to be a proper parent then half the redneck, belt-whipping, God fearing yokles out there.

In either event, we increased the number of male and female homosexuals by enhancing the risk factors for developmental gender confusion and the psycho-social deficits which eventually lead to the same-sex attraction. Hence, the need for yet another constitutional right to privacy to be announced by the U.S. Supreme Court in the horrific Lawrence decision in 2003 — this time for homosexual sodomy.

Oh, but Hetro-Sexual Sodomy is ok? :roll:

Thus, what started with the uncoupling of sexuality and procreation in the Griswold (contraception) case has now reached its unnatural conclusion with the legalization and normalization of homosexual sodomy in the Lawrence case. After all, if sex is only about adult emotional attachments, and not procreation, then why not homosexuality?

Sex is whatever an individual wants it to be, and if someone is happy with porking a hole in a tree, then who are you to dictate right and wrong? Nobody, that's who.

Of course, the downward slide of our society has been greatly accelerated by the explosion of pornography on the Internet which has weakened the natural romantic attraction between young people and replaced it with unbridled selfish sexual gratification.

Oh ffs..... how much more stupid can this article get? Oh yes.... the internet porn has corrupted our precious little minds..... as if back in the 60's with naked hippies doing drugs and having sex out in fields, or the disco-70's and their druggy era didn't have anything to do with it...... no... this time with the internet porn.... that was the big kicker in corrupting our little minds who know no better.

This has further lessened the natural resistance and even revulsion to various sexual perversions.

We fear what we do not know or understand.... this article is smelling of this.

Indeed, just this past week we have witnessed the sitting Chief Appellate Justice of the largest federal judicial district in the nation, posting disgusting sexual images on his website (involving people and animals) while presiding over a pornography trial involving beastiality and extreme fetishes. Where does all of this lead us — to same-sex “marriage,” of course.

This guy who wrote this is a fk'n moron.... Of Course.....

How the hell does sticking your wang into a goat make you all of a sudden gay? That makes you someone who's into Beastiality, get your damn information straight...... ffs, I feel my brain bleeding from the inside out reading this crap.

Yes, hypothetically someone likes having sex with a female horse...... OMG!!!!UBER!!11 Now they want to marry someone of the same sex!!!! Who could ever see that one coming? :angry3:

This is so ignorantly stupid it's not even funny anymore.

And how much time do we have left by Unwin’s standards — I would say that we are at least at the end of the second generation of deterioration, if not already well into the final third generation before the collapse.

Get used to it.... the world's about to get even more screwed up then you could possibly imagine.

I guess I should thank homosexuals and bisexuals alike..... they continually piss people like this off to no end and makes my job so much more easier.

Can we stop this societal suicide — possibly, but not if we can’t stop same-sex “marriage” in California in November 2008, and not without supernatural help.

Yeah, prey to your God to shoot some bolts up some arses to weld them shut.... I'm sure I'll wait for that day to come..... as if he ever bothered to do anything about it before.

And if he never did anything about it before, that brings one to either two conclusions.....

#1 - God doesn't exist.
#2 - God isn't doing anything about it, because it's a part of his plan and your opposition of his plan with send you directly to hell..... enjoy.

Without the foundation of Religion and Morality that George Washingoton and the other founding fathers provided for us, there is simply no real hope for the future of this country.

Do some homework on your precious G. Washington and his Freemason background.

Oh and News Flash..... George is dead, along with his era..... this is our time and our lands.... we'll do whatever the hell we think is right for ourselves, not some dead guy from centuries past. History stays the same, while the present is continually changing..... get used to it. You either evolve with the changes or you become extinct.... just like how religions are doing right now.

Finally, since it is only in our maleness and femaleness that we are made in the image and likeness of God, the destruction of the concept of gender is perhaps Satan’s greatest accomplishment.

If you don't know what God's great plan is... then how the hell do you know what Satan's great plan is? Hearsay from other dead humans from the past who were stuck in their own beliefs of their time.......wonderfull.

Moreover, since the sacramental marriage of a husband and wife is used to image the relationship of Christ and His Church, even the idea of same-sex ”marriage” is a sacrilege.

BZZZZZZ WRONG! Marriage and the bonding of two people has existed long before Christianity was ever created..... in fact it even predates most known and current religions. Don't claim something as your's when it never was to begin with.

Therefore, separate and apart from the seemingly accurate prognastications of Professor Unwin, I just don’t see how a God of Justice can tolerate such a diabolical mockery of His divinely ordained instituion of marriage for very long.

Because perhaps it's a part of his plan.... either that or he's an idiot.

Indeed, the same man to whom our Lord entrusted the Keys to the Kingdom warned us that: “…in the last days there shall come deceitful scoffers, walking after their own lusts… ” (2 Peter 3:3). In conclusion, I informed my friend that although we have had the privilege of living in the greatest nation in the history of the world,

*Snickers* BWAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!! OMG *Farts*

based on the foregoing, we may very well be seeing it in its waning years. May the God of our fathers have mercy on us and our beloved country.

Yes, all those floods, droughts, forest fires started, earthquakes, tornados and hurricanes plaguing the United States in these recent years are his blessings for the US......

..... maybe all those things are happening because the US pissed God off? Naw.... the US is too perfect to make mistakes, even in the eyes of God.... whatever they do must be what God wanted..... that's why you guys are being destroyed by natural occurances recently..... that's his reward for you guys doing exactly what he does or doesn't want you to do.

Confused? You should be.
 

MikeyDB

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I reiterate....who cares?

The world is more than the United Lobotomized States of Arrogance.
 

darkbeaver

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"Charles LiMandri is the General Counsel for the National Organization for Marriage (www.NOMCalifornia.org). In that capacity he has been very active in the effort to pass a constitutional amendment to protect marriage in California which will be on the ballot in November 2008. He is a member of the Religious Liberty Committee of the California Catholic Conference of Bishops and he serves on an advisory committee to the White House on issues of importance to Catholics."


One of the real useless eaters.


 

darkbeaver

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Third quarter this year then the riots begin followed by civil war. I hope the CBC has a team ready to provide 24/7 coverage in the conflict zone, I may start watching the Telly again.
 

MissAnnika

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this is what i think america's problem is we try to stick our nose in where it doesnt belong and at the same time try to make everyone happy. unrealistic goals really. and ur right about so many american's being ignorant,its true. in a way i feel lucky cuz i'm on an island away from the mainlanders and i dont have to put up with all the ingnorance as much.
 

tracy

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Another "the sky is falling" post. If the most productive society is one where women can't work, have to stay home and raise babies that they couldn't avoid having and obey their male masters, then I'll happily enjoy living in a less productive society!!!
 

darkbeaver

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i say we have a few months, then bush will b outta office

Don't bet on it, he dosen't have to leave anymore the rules have been changed, but I suppose the owners will be just as happy to see him go so they can appoint thier new improved parrot in the offal oriface. Bush was always just a symptom of the underlying terminal condition.:smile:
 

EagleSmack

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Third quarter this year then the riots begin followed by civil war. I hope the CBC has a team ready to provide 24/7 coverage in the conflict zone, I may start watching the Telly again.

A new prediction? Your winter prediction called for Martial Law by the Spring of 2008 with Bush declaring himself President for Life...how did that turn out.

So now we have to look forward to a Fall Civil War...YIPPEEEEE!
 

thomaska

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Was this third quarter Fiscal year or Calender year? The war would be better if it started in the first quarter...there's usually more money then. Besides we've already had the rapture and we nuked Iran sometime last year if I remember correctly...