Hamas attacks Israel

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The problem is, sure, we see how the Palestinians reacted...

But what about Israeli's who reacted/celebrated when Palestinian homes are demolished illegally? Or kids died?
“But what about”…can go back 75 years, or 2000 years in that region, hating in the name of their gods.

The ones who demand those lands because they think their God gave it to them? And ask yourself - would that be accepted anywhere else in the world?
It’s not acceptable at all, anywhere. Death in the name of mythological deities is just a bullshit excuse to baffle the masses.
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Hamas and Iran were fucking IDIOTS to do this attack.
Yep. They are the aggressors here. Iran isn’t innocent, and I wonder how that’ll fit into this goat rodeo in the days to come. Hezbollah (Iran) can probably expect a retaliatory strike too. Ugh…
They walked right into Israel's bloodlust to protect itself.
“Bloodlust to protect itself” is some weird wording.
Innocents won't matter because to the hard right Government in control right now, there ARE no innocents.
Wait, what? Are you talking about Hezbollah in Palestine or Israeli Government or Hamas in Gaza here? Iran & its Government? It sort’a fits everyone involved.
Meanwhile, their promise of "wiping out Hamas' ideology' is a pipe dream and the more Israel lashes out beyond anything "appropriate" (and no, don't ask, cause I don't know what would be appropriate right now), it gives the next generation of Hamas the excuse to keep things going.
Are Israel & its neighbours going to push Hamas into the sea?
Just like this gives the next gen of Israeli people the excuse to keep things going.

This is the cycle there.
Yep.
The sooner they blow themselves to hell, the better for everyone.
I think it’ll be more of a “blow each other to Hell” but time will tell.
 

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There are times when I think we should nuke the entire muddle east and see in a few thousand years if anything good can grow there. This is one of those times.
 
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“But what about”…can go back 75 years, or 2000 years in that region, hating in the name of their gods.

True.

It’s not acceptable at all, anywhere. Death in the name of mythological deities is just a bullshit excuse to baffle the masses.
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Also true.

Yep. They are the aggressors here. Iran isn’t innocent, and I wonder how that’ll fit into this goat rodeo in the days to come. Hezbollah (Iran) can probably expect a retaliatory strike too. Ugh…

No, Iran isn't innocent in this either.

“Bloodlust to protect itself” is some weird wording.

Weird wording if you don't want to see just how bad Israel has been on their side of this too.

Wait, what? Are you talking about Hezbollah in Palestine or Israeli Government or Hamas in Gaza here? Iran & its Government? It sort’a fits everyone involved.

Nope.

The Israeli Government. Because the hard right, Authoritarianism that's taken over wants EVERYONE of non Jewish blood out of the area.

Are Israel & its neighbours going to push Hamas into the sea?

Not likely. They'll just bulldoze them, bomb them or whatever else they can, murdering the guilty and innocents.

Maybe we should be good with that; solves everything then, doesn't it?

Yep.

I think it’ll be more of a “blow each other to Hell” but time will tell.

Sadly they had the time and that time is done.


The irony is that they attacked, kidnapped and murdered people at a Peace Festival. It only proved how savage Hamas is.

They get what they deserve.

But Israel is no innocent in this.

They have pushed and pushed lately enough to get this retaliation and if anyone thought the Palestinians were just going to sit back and let them keep doing what they were, well those people don't have a clue about the region.
 

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There are times when I think we should nuke the entire muddle east and see in a few thousand years if anything good can grow there. This is one of those times.
The Middle East isn’t just in the Middle East. All sides have exported their hatred globally, so your proposal would just export their battlegrounds elsewhere.

Look at the cheering in Montreal & Toronto & London & Sydney and elsewhere, with counter protests and so forth.

ISIS/Taliban in Afghanistan is already seeking permission to traverse the inter-laying countries to get to Palestine so they don’t miss out on the fun and games either. They are coming in from the east while the Americans are coming in from the west. Three on this list now so far are coming forward for Palestine:
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So Israel is the bloodthirsty aggressor here with its authoritarian “right wing” beliefs and government? Not both sides?

Are not the sides reflections of each other, but with the subtle difference of restraint in protecting its own population being a priority of Israel as opposed to hiding behind its population by Hamas & Hezbollah (and soon also ISIS & Taliban) on behalf of Palestine? Is not the goal of the Muslim Brotherhood (that Hamas is an offshoot of) to push the Jews (not Israel, but the Jews as a people) into the sea? That’s and the whole Sharia Law thing, but I’m just trying to contrast this with the Israeli Gov’t as you’re describing it.

In the spirit of, “Yeah but what about” from August 1st, 1948, CAIRO, Egypt, Aug. 1 -- Sheikh Hassan el-Bana, head of the Moslem Brotherhood, largest of the extremist Arab nationalist organizations, declared in an interview today: "If the Jewish state becomes a fact, and this is realized by the Arab peoples, they will drive the Jews who live in their midst into the sea” from the New York Times.
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So Israel is the bloodthirsty aggressor here with its authoritarian “right wing” beliefs and government? Not both sides?

Nope, never said that at all.

Hamas was the absolute aggressor, this time.

But unlike a lot of people, I also don't ignore Israel's part in all this.

Of course, because I acknowledge that, I'm called Anti-Semite which I guess is true but whatever.

Hamas signed the death warrant of everyone in Gaza doing this (so did Iran, tbh).

Israel pushed them to this end.

Both sides want this bloodshed to continue.

Are not the sides reflections of each other, but with the subtle difference of restraint in protecting its own population being a priority of Israel as opposed to hiding behind its population by Hamas & Hezbollah (and soon also ISIS & Taliban) on behalf of Palestine? Is not the goal of the Muslim Brotherhood (that Hamas is an offshoot of) to push the Jews (not Israel, but the Jews as a people) into the sea? That’s and the whole Sharia Law thing, but I’m just trying to contrast this with the Israeli Gov’t as you’re describing it.

Don't deny that the history of Palestine as aggressors has always been there, and the "Destruction of Israel" too.

And while Israel may have at one time had 'restraint', they don't anymore. Haven't for years now. So no, Israel no longer gets to claim "oh they're trying to destroy us for no reason".

In the spirit of, “Yeah but what about” from August 1st, 1948, CAIRO, Egypt, Aug. 1 -- Sheikh Hassan el-Bana, head of the Moslem Brotherhood, largest of the extremist Arab nationalist organizations, declared in an interview today: "If the Jewish state becomes a fact, and this is realized by the Arab peoples, they will drive the Jews who live in their midst into the sea” from the New York Times.
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Israel’s military ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip on Monday, halting deliveries of food, water, fuel and supplies to its 2.3 million people as it pounded the Hamas-ruled territory with waves of airstrikes in retaliation for the militants’ bloody weekend incursion.

More than two days after Hamas launched its surprise attack, the Israeli military said it had largely gained control in its southern towns where it had been battling Hamas gunmen. Israel’s vaunted military and intelligence apparatus was caught completely off guard by Hamas, resulting in heavy battles in its streets for the first time in decades.

Israeli tanks and drones were deployed to guard breaches in the Gaza border fence to prevent new incursions.

Thousands of Israelis were evacuated from more than a dozen towns near Gaza, and the military summoned 300,000 reservists — a massive mobilization in a short time.
The moves, along with Israel’s formal declaration of war on Sunday, pointed to Israel increasingly shifting to the offensive against Hamas, threatening greater destruction in the densely populated, impoverished Gaza Strip.

In the war’s third day, Israel was still finding bodies from Hamas’ stunning weekend attack into southern Israeli towns. Rescue workers found 100 bodies in the tiny farming community of Beeri — around 10% of its population — after a long hostage standoff with gunmen. In Gaza, tens of thousands fled their homes as relentless airstrikes leveled buildings.

I’ve googled, and I can’t find anything with respect to Hamas in talks with Egypt (for example) to try and evacuate any of the population of Gaza. Nothing about them asking or Egypt turning them down or anything along those lines.
 
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Hamas doesn’t want peace, it wants Israel

Author of the article:Lorrie Goldstein
Published Oct 07, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read

Hamas, which launched Friday’s massive surprise attack on Israel, is classified as a terrorist organization by Canada and its major allies.


It has never wanted peace with what it calls “the Zionist Entity.”


Hamas has, over four decades, fought four wars against Israel, launched hundreds of attacks on civilian and military targets, including suicide bombings, and fired tens of thousands of rockets into Israel, indiscriminately hitting civilians and civilian infrastructure from its military and political power base in the Gaza Strip.

Also known as the Islamic Resistance Movement, its founding charter in 1988 declared that, “Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.”




It described Israel as an “Islamic Waqf, consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgment Day” declaring, “it, or any part of it, should not be squandered; it or any part of it should not be given up.”

Hamas rejected any and all peace negotiations to create an independent and viable Palestinian state, living alongside Israel while accepting its right to exist, declaring, “Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Muslim people. May the cowards never sleep.”


As its founding charter described it, “Leaving the circle of struggle with Zionism is high treason and cursed be he who does that … There is no way out except by concentrating all powers and energies to face this Nazi, vicious Tatar invasion.”

Over the years, Hamas has moderated some of its palpably insane political rhetoric in its founding charter, which among other things, described Rotary and Lions clubs as part of an international Zionist conspiracy.


Hamas has even, at times, paid lip service to the concept of a two-state solution.

In 2017, it said it was abandoning its call for the destruction of Israel, and reclassifying its war against Jews as a war against Zionism.

But at the same time Hamas continued to reject Israel’s right to exist and called for continued “armed struggle” against it.



Friday’s well-planned Hamas military operation, which included terrorist attacks into Israeli territory along with a new campaign of rockets launchings while Jews were celebrating the joyous holiday of Simchat Torah, caught Israel’s government, military and security forces by surprise.

That has infuriated Israelis, especially so because the attack also coincides with the 50th anniversary of the start of the Yom Kippur war on Oct. 6, 1973, when a coalition of Arab countries launched a surprise attack against Israel on the most sacred holiday in the Jewish calendar.

Israel suffered heavy casualties in that war as well, until Israel finally regrouped and was eventually able to declare victory on Oct. 25.


In addition to causing a large number of civilian deaths in its latest attack, Hamas says it has also captured Israeli civilians and soldiers.

Given that, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who on Saturday declared war against Hamas saying it will “pay a price it has never known,” has ordered a massive military response with civilian and military casualties on both sides rapidly growing.


The immediate response from the international community — including from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau who has been sharply critical up to now of Netanyahu’s hardline government — has been supportive of Israel in condemning Hamas’ attack.

Whether that will hold as civilian casualties mount, and, as in the past, Israel will be criticized for a “disproportionate” response to what it considers an existential threat, remains to be seen.

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Gazans say nowhere to go as they prepare for Israeli assault after Hamas raid.

Israeli military phone messages have warned people to leave some areas, indicating a new ground attack that could eclipse previous bouts of destructive warfare in the dense concrete townships that grew up in Gaza's original tented refugee camps.

The surprise Hamas attack on Saturday caused Israel its bloodiest day, as fighters smashed through border defences and marauded through towns, killing more than 800 people and dragging more than 100 into captivity in Gaza.

"It doesn't need much thinking about. Israel suffered the biggest loss in its history so you can imagine what it is going to do," said a resident of Beit Hanoun on Gaza's northeastern border with Israel.

"I took my family out at sunrise and dozens of other families did the same. Many of us got phone calls, audio messages from Israeli security officers telling us to leave because they will operate there," he said.

Recorded phone messages and social media posts issued by Israel's military warning residents to quit some Gaza areas added to residents' fears.

Despite the danger, the 45-year-old was pleased by Hamas' raid into Israel, he said, requesting anonymity for fear of Israeli reprisals.

"We are afraid but still we are proud like never before," he said, adding: "Hamas wiped out entire Israeli army battalions. It crushed them like biscuits".

A senior Hamas official said the group is open to discussions over a possible truce with Israel, having "achieved its targets." (?)

Moussa Abu Marzouk told Al Jazeera in a phone interview that Hamas was open to "something of that sort" and "all political dialogues" when asked whether the Islamist group is willing to discuss a possible ceasefire.

The predicate for Hamas’ attack had less to do with anything that the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu may have done—now is not the moment to blame the victim. Rather, the trigger to the attack was likely that the prospect of a wider Mideast peace was almost at hand through an impending deal between Israel and Saudi Arabia.

Hamas’ sabotage parallels the disruption of the prospective Israeli-Palestinian peace plan in 2000 on the heels of a Camp David Summit when the devastation of the Second Intifada ruined any dreams of normalization and resulted in the deaths of thousands of civilians.

This time, by all accounts, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the United States were inching closer towards a transformative three-way deal, which would have seen Israel and Saudi formally recognize each other within a security, defense, and economic partnership with the U.S.

Just a week ago, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman said that “every day we get closer” to a deal, while Netanyahu similarly stated that he was confident of forging “a historic peace” between his country and Saudi Arabia, with Israeli cabinet ministers already landing in Riyadh to “nurture blossoming ties.”

Hamas has thoroughly embedded its operations within civilian infrastructure. That is why Prime Minister Netanyahu is already declaring that Israel is prepared for a “long and challenging” conflict.

Hamas is not and has never been interested in compromise, unlike their rival, the Palestinian Authority run by Mahmound Abbas which governs much of the West Bank but not in Gaza. Many in the Palestinian Authority were said to welcome a Saudi peace plan as well the offer of financial assistance to improve the lives of Palestinians before Hamas sabotaged those plans Saturday.

Iran state media showed video of parliament members chanting in support of Hamas on Saturday, saying “Death to Israel” and “Palestine is victorious, Israel will be destroyed”.

Iran has funded and supplied Hamas for years as part of its decades-long conflict with Israel.

The Qatari Foreign Ministry also blamed Israel for the violence…while also trying to lever itself into the position of brokering civilian hostages abducted from Israel in the last couple days in exchange for jailed Palestinians in Israel…while also being one of the funders of Hamas in Gaza.
 

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Wait? So it was Israel that twice declared a war of extermination and routinely and unprovokedly lobbed rockets and sent suicide bombers at their neighbour for the last 75 years?

No, Jin. But then I don't expect you to actually get, or want to get, the nuances of the situation.
 

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Jewish groups call for end to 'heinous' pro-Hamas rallies in Canada

Author of the article:Joe Warmington
Published Oct 08, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 4 minute read

Celebrating Hamas-led Palestinian terrorists’ evil slaughter of helpless victims in Israel is not protesting.


It’s backing mass murder and it’s dangerous.


In an open letter to the police chiefs in four of Canada’s largest cities, Jewish leaders called for a zero-tolerance approach in halting these victory-style parties.

“Hamas is a listed terrorist entity that is currently murdering, assaulting, and kidnapping dozens of children and civilians,” said the strongly worded letter. “These rallies are showing material support for a terrorist organization that has no respect for Canadian values. We, the undersigned, demand that these rallies in support of these heinous crimes be stopped. This is a matter of public safety.”



They don’t want to see the allowance of any further dancing on the graves of those slain in the brutal massacre of civilians in Israel.

This was on full display in an Eglinton Ave. plaza in Mississauga late Saturday, when dozens of pro-Palestinian supporters cheered and chanted, while waving flags in the back of a pickup truck.



It’s concerning in general, but especially for Jewish residents.

A letter with the headline, “Urgent request to prevent the Palestinian Youth Movement’s rallies planned for October 8-9, 2023,” was sent to Toronto Police Chief Myron Demkiw and his counterparts in Montreal, Vancouver and Ottawa, expressing concern that these flag-waving gatherings may ignite further violence — perhaps even in Canada.

“Canadian police services must take decisive action to keep its Jewish and Israeli communities safe,” said the letter.

The letter is signed by B’nai Brith Canada CEO Michael Mostyn; B’nai Brith Canada legal affairs director Sam Goldstein; Conservative MPs Melissa Lantsman, Shuvaloy Majumdar and Leo Housakos; Sen. Sarah Teich; March of the Living Canada chair Lissie Sanders; One Family Fund Canada executive director Toby Rosner; York Region family services director Ira Teich; and Allied Voices for Israel executive director Daniel Koren.


Premier Doug Ford weighed in on Sunday as well with a post on X, calling the “hate rallies” supporting the slaughter and kidnapping of innocent Israelis “reprehensible and disgusting.”



Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre, meanwhile, said on X that there is “no place for the glorification” of terrorism.



It’s interesting how many incidents, people or groups are described as “hate,” but taking to the streets to cheer on mass murder is treated with kid gloves.

If Canada ever decides these heinous actions are as serious as the Freedom Convoy or those protesting gender ideology, there is plenty of evidence on social media that authorities could pore over to determine if there are hate-speech violations.

But either way, when you see on Canadian soil supporters of Hamas and Palestinian terror openly celebrating the savage slayings and kidnappings of innocent Israelis, one wonders how any Jewish person can feel safe in Canada right now?

It’s understandable that Jewish groups are not only outraged, but concerned about the safety of their people.


“A group called Palestinian Youth Movement has advertised on social media that they are holding a series of rallies to support and celebrate these recent crimes committed by Hamas,” said the letter, which added the rallies are scheduled at Nathan Phillips Square and in Vancouver on Monday. Other events were scheduled to take place in Ottawa and Montreal on Sunday.

The Toronto Sun reached out to the the Palestinian Youth Movement for comment.



It’s not difficult to see the concern these leaders have now that Israel is at war. But Canada’s Jewish citizens are shaken by the tepid — if not lack of — support from many politicians, who have adopted a stance of neutrality about the conflict.


Mayor Olivia Chow erased earlier tweets that seemed to try to draw a middle ground, while Liberal MP Iqra Khalid tweeted she had been “listening to and consoling” her constituents in her riding of Mississauga-Erin Mills “as we witness horrific attacks against Israel and Gaza.”



CUPE Local 3906, which represents 3,000 workers at McMaster University, issued a now-deleted tweet on X that seemed to support the Palestinian effort by saying “Palestine is rising, long live ther (stet) resistance.” It raised so much concern that the university denounced the social-media post in a statement.



There are not two sides to genocide.

What is needed now is for leaders to clearly and fully denounce the blood-on-their hands terrorists and their evil deeds and not try to straddle some weird line that there are two sides to such atrocities.

The letter highlighted this as it asked for police and politicians to enforce basic standards before matters spill over here. While the Emergencies Act was brought in to end the protest of some peaceful truckers, they have not called for it in this case.

Hopefully there will be no need for that, but it very well could happen. What is needed now is for leaders to be leaders and stand up to those who on Canadian soil are celebrating and hold them accountable — just as they did with Freedom Convoy protesters.

Lauding butchery and blood-curdling annihilation of innocent people is not peaceful protesting, but supporting and encouraging violence and death.
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Canadians stuck in Israel as flights are cancelled, embassy closed for Thanksgiving
Author of the article:Canadian Press
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Published Oct 08, 2023 • Last updated 22 hours ago • 5 minute read

Some Canadians said they were stuck in Israel amid deadly fighting Sunday, as airlines cancelled flights out of the country and reaching the Canadian Embassy on a holiday weekend proved difficult.


Global Affairs Canada, meanwhile, said in a statement Sunday afternoon that it was aware of reports of one Canadian who has died amid the fighting and two others who are missing.


No further information about the identity of the Canadian who reportedly died, or the others who were missing, was included in the statement.

“Canadian government officials in Israel are in contact with local authorities to confirm and gather additional information,” the statement said.

“The Government of Canada’s first priority is always the safety and security of its citizens. For this reason, we will not comment on or release any information which may compromise ongoing efforts or endanger the safety of Canadians.”

Toronto residents Kendall and Marie Fullerton were at the ancient site of Megiddo on Saturday when Hamas militants fired thousands of rockets and sent out dozens of fighters to infiltrate the heavily fortified border by air, land and sea.


The unprecedented attack has been called the deadliest on Israel in years, with the incursion and counteroffensive killing hundreds on both sides and injuring thousands more.

“Right now, the situation is OK, but I think that Israel is probably going to ramp up some offensive operations, and that’s probably going to put pressure on other entities around the region,” Kendall Fullerton told The Canadian Press from Tel Aviv, where he’s been vacationing with family members since late September.

“It may get more heated as time goes on, so we’re kind of anxious to leave this place.”

The Israeli government formally declared war on Sunday and gave the green light for “significant military steps” to retaliate against Hamas as the military tried to crush fighters still in southern towns and intensified its bombardment of the Gaza Strip.


Passengers wait at Ben Gurion Airport near Tel Aviv, Israel, on Oct. 7, 2023, as flights are cancelled because of the Hamas surprise attack.
Passengers wait at Ben Gurion Airport near Tel Aviv, Israel, on Oct. 7, 2023, as flights are cancelled because of the Hamas surprise attack. PHOTO BY GIL COHEN-MAGEN /AFP via Getty Images
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spoke with the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday, where he “unequivocally condemned” Hamas’ attacks and said he is “gravely concerned” about the atrocities that have unfolded.



Trudeau reaffirmed that Canada stands with Israel and fully supports Israel’s right to defend itself and the leaders agreed to remain in close contact as the situation develops.



In Sunday evening’s statement, he also called for the release of hostages being held amid the violence and demanded they be treated in accordance with international law but did not give any further details on their nationalities.

The Fullertons said Sunday was mostly quiet in Tel Aviv, but they have witnessed fighter jets, smoke from distant Arab cities and multiple air raid sirens — leading to stints in their hotel’s bomb shelter — since the incursion.

After their scheduled flight home was cancelled, they spent Sunday trying to book another one to no avail, as most airlines continued cancelling their flights out. Air Canada had said it was temporarily cancelling flights to and from Tel Aviv as of Sunday and would adjust plans as things developed.


Marie Fullerton said they’ve been trying to reach the Canadian Embassy in Tel Aviv since news of the attack broke, but they’ve been bounced to hotlines and unable to get direct information due to the embassy keeping Thanksgiving long weekend hours.

“What I would appreciate is having a flight that we can guarantee and bank on and put money on and get out on,” said Kendall Fullerton, noting they were considering driving to neighbouring Jordan and flying out from there, but were unsure if it would be safe to do so.

Robbie Segall, a 22-year-old from Montreal in Israel for an internship, said he felt safe in the West Bank settlement of Efrat, where he’s been staying with friends for the Jewish holiday of Simchat Torah, but was frustrated with “the lack of care or assistance from the Canadian government.”


Segall said he was at a synagogue when air raid sirens began going off, prompting multiple trips to bomb shelters and cancelling holiday services.

He said he contacted the emergency contact line set up for Canadians in Israel but was redirected to the Canadian Embassy. Segall said he was told the embassy was closed for Thanksgiving, and requests for travel information and emergencies wouldn’t be answered until after the long weekend.

“Luckily I’m in a place where I feel safer, but if I felt that I really, really needed to get out, I wouldn’t be able to get any help from the Canadian government, from the embassy until Tuesday,” he said in an interview.

Global Affairs Canada’s statement Sunday did not address questions about the embassy being closed over the weekend. It said Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Joly spoke with her counterparts in Israel, the Palestinian Authority, Jordan and Egypt on Sunday “to discuss the horrific terrorist attacks on Israel and how Canada can work with partners to restore calm.”


The statement reiterated advice that the more than 1,400 registered Canadians in Israel and 492 in the Palestinian territories limit their movements and shelter in place until it’s safe to leave, and provided phone numbers and emails for them to call for assistance.

The department has urged Canadians travelling to the region to exercise a “high degree of caution” in Israel and avoid all travel to the Gaza Strip and the country’s borders with Syria, Egypt and Lebanon. Non-essential travel to the West Bank and Gaza Strip border were also discouraged.

It said the Canadian government’s ability to provide consular services to Canadians in the Gaza Strip is “limited” and in cases of deportation, local authorities are not obliged to notify the Canadian Embassy in Tel Aviv nor the Representative Office of Canada in Ramallah.


Montreal-based Doctors Without Borders said in a statement its team in Gaza was preparing a donation of medicine to hospitals and health facilities, which are overcrowded with injured patients and short on drugs and generator fuel, in the region Sunday. The group said there were few safe options to move patients to health facilities, as ambulances were being hit by airstrikes.

“It’s all been gunshot wounds and injuries from shrapnel, spread at random on the upper and lower limbs,” medical activity manager Jean Pierre said in a statement.

In Canada, some police forces have upped their presence at mosques and synagogues as a result of the violence and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau strongly condemned the attacks by Hamas, saying he had spoken to Jordan’s King Abdullah II about co-ordinating efforts in the region.


Speaking from Edmonton, Mousa Qasgas, spokesman for the Canada Palestine Cultural Association, told The Canadian Press the group would hold a rally Sunday in solidarity with Palestinians.

“We know the events yesterday are hard to watch,” Qasqas said, noting his group has condemned terrorism.

Meanwhile, in Montreal, a few hundred demonstrators gathered downtown, where they waved Palestinian flags and marched through the streets, shouting slogans such as “Free Palestine!” and “Resistance is justified when people are occupied.”

— With files from Tyler Griffin in Toronto, Rob Drinkwater in Edmonton, Morgan Lowrie in Montreal and The Associated Press
 

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No, Jin. But then I don't expect you to actually get, or want to get, the nuances of the situation.
What fucking nuance? You stated "Israel pushed them to this end". Full stop!

Nuance 1) a subtle distinction or variation,
2) a subtle quality : nicety
3) sensibility to, awareness of, or ability to express delicate shadings (as of meaning, feeling, or value)

Sorry, toots but there wasn't a shred of nuance in your comment.
 
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What fucking nuance? You stated "Israel pushed them to this end". Full stop!

Nuance 1) a subtle distinction or variation,
2) a subtle quality : nicety
3) sensibility to, awareness of, or ability to express delicate shadings (as of meaning, feeling, or value)

Sorry, toots but there wasn't a shred of nuance in your comment.

Zoomed over your head again.

Here, I'll help.

You said:"Wait? So it was Israel that twice declared a war of extermination and routinely and unprovokedly lobbed rockets and sent suicide bombers at their neighbour for the last 75 years?"

My comment this was replying to was directed at Ron.

Ron asked: "So Israel is the bloodthirsty aggressor here with its authoritarian “right wing” beliefs and government? Not both sides?

And I replied: "Nope, never said that at all.

Hamas was the absolute aggressor, this time.

But unlike a lot of people, I also don't ignore Israel's part in all this.

Of course, because I acknowledge that, I'm called Anti-Semite which I guess is true but whatever.

Hamas signed the death warrant of everyone in Gaza doing this (so did Iran, tbh).

Israel pushed them to this end.

Both sides want this bloodshed to continue."


Which is why I said to you:"No, Jin. But then I don't expect you to actually get, or want to get, the nuances of the situation."

The nuance - ie the "awareness of" - or in this case the lack of it, is your focus on one part, without the context of the rest.

And yes, I said "Israel pushed them to this end". And they did. When Israel's right wing wackadoo's call Palestinians "animals", when those same wackadoos also have racist attitudes to Arab Israeli's, to Christian Israeli's as well as Palestinians, when the same wackadoo's, well...


"Buttu said Israeli governments of the past had tried to keep Palestinians “invisible” to Israeli voters, even while entrenching the occupation, and diverted attention instead to less emotive issues such as the economy or bus schedules.

“Previous Israeli governments had the same plans as this current government, which is to take as much Palestinian land as possible, blockade the Gaza Strip, build and expand settlements, and kill Palestinians with impunity,” said Buttu.

“The difference is that with this government, their sole political platform is against Palestinians,” she said. “There is no longer a veneer.”"

I also said that Hamas was fucking stupid for the attack.

I also said Hamas was savage for the attack at the festival.

Hamas will pay for this, and they should, absolutely and totally.

I could go on but you get the idea (maybe).

Unlike you, I actually understand the "nuances" to the situation going on there. You either know and don't give a shit because you're a bigot (proven so by your repeated racial slurs against Muslims/Arabs), or you're ignorant and refuse to educate yourself on it. Either way, that's on you.

There is more to this situation than just the brutality of Hamas and the apartheid of Israel. (and now I wait on your freak out over calling out Israel for apartheid...)
 

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So….Gaza borders on Israel & Egypt (so two land borders).

Gaza & Egypt are both Muslim centric. Gaza isn’t at war with Egypt, but it sure is via Hamas after this weekend.

{In this latest clash (this week), Palestine attack Israel etc….& Israel is going to retaliate, and try to get back the hostages from Israel of many nationalities, etc…}

Somehow, Gaza smuggled in at least 5000+ missiles and a Hardware to fire them, weapons, these glider contraptions, etc…. So they obviously have a way to get things in and out of the country.

When Gaza attacked Israel this week, why weren’t the people of Gaza flooding into Egypt? Humanitarian Efforts By Egypt to accept Gaza citizens, at least temporarily to camps or whatever until this was over?

I keep reading a few new stories, where it says that the people of Gaza are “trapped” in Gaza with nowhere to go? Why are they going into Egypt? Does Egypt want nothing to do with them?