But blue & white and on top of a dive flag, just so everybody knows what it is just so that if it’s ever written on the inside of an RV door in a sharpie marker, nobody confuses it for something else?
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Everybody knows what Jewish kosher dive flag looks like.
If you are a Canadian Jew, or you are one of the many who supports Canadian Jews and Israel, it’s been a bad week.
The mayor of Canada’s largest city refused to attend the raising of one Israeli flag at City Hall, because it was too “divisive.” McGill University failed to get an injunction to remove a weeks-long anti-Israel, pro-Hamas encampment.
A Jewish kid was beaten up by a Muslim kid at a Fredericton-area school, and teachers did nothing to stop it. Vancouver artists are being kicked out of exhibits for being Jewish. Canada, for the first time, showed its willingness to recognize a Palestinian “state” run by Hamas – a listed terror organization.
And, to top it all off, CBC broadcast a couple “facts checks,” as they called them, about whether the aforementioned encampments – the Infant-fada – were receiving support from outside.
The “fact checks” were so replete with errors, so completely unbalanced, we will not even link to them, because we have a policy against publishing fake news at this organization. Suffice to say that the “investigative reporter” who broadcast the stories mainly relied upon (a) other CBC reporters (b) Israel-hating protestors and (c) an anti-Zionist professor for his sources.
So, what is the truth? Are the protests we are seeing on our university campuses, and in our streets – across Canada and the United States – planned and connected? Are they being funded by others?
Well, yes and yes.
As far back as January, this newspaper has published multiple sourced reports about “pro-Palestine” protestors getting paid to protest, from Victoria to Montreal. We have documented that self-styled “progressive” organizations here and in the U.S. are using their non-profit status to pass along millions to those who despise Jews and the Jewish state. It’s all right there in Google, by us and other news organizations.
But perhaps CBC can’t afford Google. Perhaps, too, they didn’t see a bombshell lawsuit that was commenced earlier this month – and well before CBC broadcast their fake news reports – in the Virginia’s District Court. It wasn’t hard to find. We certainly found it, within minutes. Google can be your friend.
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That lawsuit, all 49 pages of it, lays out in granular detail the way in which the anti-Semitic American Muslims for Palestine (AMP, which isn’t as active in Canada) and the pro-Hamas Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP, which assuredly is, with 200 chapters here and around the globe) “serve as Hamas’ propaganda divisions” in Canada, the U.S. and elsewhere.
In Canada, some SJP chapters have taken slightly different names, like Students Against Israeli Apartheid (SAIA), or Solidarity for Palestinian Human Rights (SPHR). But they’re all branches of the same poisonous tree – about which the Anti-Defamation League has said: “Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) and many of the organization’s campus chapters explicitly endorsed the actions of Hamas and their armed attacks on Israeli civilians… SJP chapters issue pro-Hamas messaging and/or promote violent anti-Israel messaging channels.”
So, SJP is here and they are very active on campuses – and they help oversee just about every anti-Semitic protest in this country. Good times.
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Their lawsuit against SJP and AMP is a legal work of art, basically. It is a thing of beauty. It meticulously and surgically lays out the ways in which SJP and its allied organizations “provide on-campus management and control hundreds of university chapters of SJP.” Why? “To operate a propaganda machine for Hamas and its affiliates across campuses.”
In the statement of claim, the victims write: “[SJP and its affiliates] provide ongoing, continuous, systematic and material support for Hamas its affiliates … by operating and managing Hamas’s mouthpiece for North America, dedicated to sanitizing Hamas’ atrocities and normalizing its terrorism.”
It’s all right there, page after page of it. The allegations haven’t been tested in court yet. But would it have killed CBC to, say, reach out to someone involved in the lawsuit and try and get both sides of the story?
Apparently. Perhaps they were too busy counting their taxpayer-funded bonuses to, you know, go out and do some real reporting.
The mayor of Canada’s largest city refused to attend the raising of one Israeli flag at City Hall, because it was too “divisive.” McGill University failed to get an injunction to remove a weeks-long anti-Israel, pro-Hamas encampment.
A Jewish kid was beaten up by a Muslim kid at a Fredericton-area school, and teachers did nothing to stop it. Vancouver artists are being kicked out of exhibits for being Jewish. Canada, for the first time, showed its willingness to recognize a Palestinian “state” run by Hamas – a listed terror organization.
And, to top it all off, CBC broadcast a couple “facts checks,” as they called them, about whether the aforementioned encampments – the Infant-fada – were receiving support from outside.
The “fact checks” were so replete with errors, so completely unbalanced, we will not even link to them, because we have a policy against publishing fake news at this organization. Suffice to say that the “investigative reporter” who broadcast the stories mainly relied upon (a) other CBC reporters (b) Israel-hating protestors and (c) an anti-Zionist professor for his sources.
So, what is the truth? Are the protests we are seeing on our university campuses, and in our streets – across Canada and the United States – planned and connected? Are they being funded by others?
Well, yes and yes.
As far back as January, this newspaper has published multiple sourced reports about “pro-Palestine” protestors getting paid to protest, from Victoria to Montreal. We have documented that self-styled “progressive” organizations here and in the U.S. are using their non-profit status to pass along millions to those who despise Jews and the Jewish state. It’s all right there in Google, by us and other news organizations.
But perhaps CBC can’t afford Google. Perhaps, too, they didn’t see a bombshell lawsuit that was commenced earlier this month – and well before CBC broadcast their fake news reports – in the Virginia’s District Court. It wasn’t hard to find. We certainly found it, within minutes. Google can be your friend.
KINSELLA: Hidden hand funds Jew-hating protests, rallies, encampments — Toronto Sun
These outside interests do not wish to reveal themselves, but we will not rest until this hidden hand is exposed
In Canada, some SJP chapters have taken slightly different names, like Students Against Israeli Apartheid (SAIA), or Solidarity for Palestinian Human Rights (SPHR). But they’re all branches of the same poisonous tree – about which the Anti-Defamation League has said: “Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) and many of the organization’s campus chapters explicitly endorsed the actions of Hamas and their armed attacks on Israeli civilians… SJP chapters issue pro-Hamas messaging and/or promote violent anti-Israel messaging channels.”
So, SJP is here and they are very active on campuses – and they help oversee just about every anti-Semitic protest in this country. Good times.
Pro-Palestine Anti-Israel College Campus Protests
It’s picked up speed and popularity as a phenomenon, and from the outside looking in, it’s pretty interesting. A Columbia student, identified on social media as Johannah King-Slutzky, a paid instructor and PhD candidate studying “theories of the imagination and poetry as interpreted through a...
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In the statement of claim, the victims write: “[SJP and its affiliates] provide ongoing, continuous, systematic and material support for Hamas its affiliates … by operating and managing Hamas’s mouthpiece for North America, dedicated to sanitizing Hamas’ atrocities and normalizing its terrorism.”
It’s all right there, page after page of it. The allegations haven’t been tested in court yet. But would it have killed CBC to, say, reach out to someone involved in the lawsuit and try and get both sides of the story?
Apparently. Perhaps they were too busy counting their taxpayer-funded bonuses to, you know, go out and do some real reporting.
For many Canadians, the 9/11 terror attacks and the 2014 Parliament Hill shootings were a wake-up call to the dangers of Islamic extremism. A 2017 Public Safety Canada report stated that more than 190 extremists with ties to Canada were suspected of engaging in terrorist activity abroad; at that time, the government knew of about 60 who had returned. In March, a mysterious propagandist associated with the Islamic State of Khorasan (ISIS-K), the group behind the recent Moscow terror attack that killed more than 140 people, was suspected of living in Canada.
Canada has now earned the unwanted distinction of becoming a hub for Islamist terror financing. A March report by the online publication Focus on Western Islamism noted that five groups with Islamist ties in Canada received at least $42 million in taxpayer funds from government departments between 2018 and 2022.
Aiding their goals are their Islamist sympathizers in the West who resort to the use of transnational criminal gangs, social media, universities and questionable charities to conduct clandestine hybrid tactics such as spreading hateful propaganda, fundraising to support foreign armed militancy, radicalizing and recruiting youth, manipulating voters and threatening critics. Thanks to their well-established networks, Islamists are able to quickly mobilize resources and capitalize on the social tensions that erupt in the wake of global conflicts such as the ongoing Israel-Hamas war.
Notwithstanding the controversial appointment of Amira Elghawaby as Canada’s Islamophobia czar, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s deafening silence on the Islamism threat — along with his reluctance to quickly and forcefully condemn the antisemitic mobs ruling our streets — is a barefaced dereliction of duty to Canadian citizens and a betrayal of the Jewish community. From the glorification of terrorism and cheering for the destruction of Canada, Israel and the U.S., to the Islamist mob’s total disregard for law and order, it is clear that Canada is sleepwalking towards an impending crisis of extremism.
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Canada has now earned the unwanted distinction of becoming a hub for Islamist terror financing. A March report by the online publication Focus on Western Islamism noted that five groups with Islamist ties in Canada received at least $42 million in taxpayer funds from government departments between 2018 and 2022.
Aiding their goals are their Islamist sympathizers in the West who resort to the use of transnational criminal gangs, social media, universities and questionable charities to conduct clandestine hybrid tactics such as spreading hateful propaganda, fundraising to support foreign armed militancy, radicalizing and recruiting youth, manipulating voters and threatening critics. Thanks to their well-established networks, Islamists are able to quickly mobilize resources and capitalize on the social tensions that erupt in the wake of global conflicts such as the ongoing Israel-Hamas war.
Notwithstanding the controversial appointment of Amira Elghawaby as Canada’s Islamophobia czar, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s deafening silence on the Islamism threat — along with his reluctance to quickly and forcefully condemn the antisemitic mobs ruling our streets — is a barefaced dereliction of duty to Canadian citizens and a betrayal of the Jewish community. From the glorification of terrorism and cheering for the destruction of Canada, Israel and the U.S., to the Islamist mob’s total disregard for law and order, it is clear that Canada is sleepwalking towards an impending crisis of extremism.
Joe Adam George: By coddling Islamism, Canada sleepwalks into a crisis of extremism — National Post
Since the deadly October 7 attacks in Israel, much ink has been spilled on the naked antisemitism and anti-western hatred raging across major Canadian cities, even as concerns mount over radicalization, terrorism and foreign interference. While these are acute national security issues that...
Everyone is beautiful in there own way . Grab a coke and sing along .For many Canadians, the 9/11 terror attacks and the 2014 Parliament Hill shootings were a wake-up call to the dangers of Islamic extremism. A 2017 Public Safety Canada report stated that more than 190 extremists with ties to Canada were suspected of engaging in terrorist activity abroad; at that time, the government knew of about 60 who had returned. In March, a mysterious propagandist associated with the Islamic State of Khorasan (ISIS-K), the group behind the recent Moscow terror attack that killed more than 140 people, was suspected of living in Canada.
Canada has now earned the unwanted distinction of becoming a hub for Islamist terror financing. A March report by the online publication Focus on Western Islamism noted that five groups with Islamist ties in Canada received at least $42 million in taxpayer funds from government departments between 2018 and 2022.
Aiding their goals are their Islamist sympathizers in the West who resort to the use of transnational criminal gangs, social media, universities and questionable charities to conduct clandestine hybrid tactics such as spreading hateful propaganda, fundraising to support foreign armed militancy, radicalizing and recruiting youth, manipulating voters and threatening critics. Thanks to their well-established networks, Islamists are able to quickly mobilize resources and capitalize on the social tensions that erupt in the wake of global conflicts such as the ongoing Israel-Hamas war.
Notwithstanding the controversial appointment of Amira Elghawaby as Canada’s Islamophobia czar, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s deafening silence on the Islamism threat — along with his reluctance to quickly and forcefully condemn the antisemitic mobs ruling our streets — is a barefaced dereliction of duty to Canadian citizens and a betrayal of the Jewish community. From the glorification of terrorism and cheering for the destruction of Canada, Israel and the U.S., to the Islamist mob’s total disregard for law and order, it is clear that Canada is sleepwalking towards an impending crisis of extremism.
Joe Adam George: By coddling Islamism, Canada sleepwalks into a crisis of extremism — National Post
Since the deadly October 7 attacks in Israel, much ink has been spilled on the naked antisemitism and anti-western hatred raging across major Canadian cities, even as concerns mount over radicalization, terrorism and foreign interference. While these are acute national security issues that...
An Ontario mother has pulled her Jewish daughter out of high school fearing she is no longer safe, saying the school is allowing and encouraging pro-Palestinian activists to display and promote threatening antisemitic messages.
“I live in Burlington, Ontario, Canada, and my child is not in school because she’s Jewish. That’s insane,” said Anissa Hersh, after withdrawing her daughter from Burlington Central High School last week.
“I can’t believe that this is happening. My daughter, who does really well at school, she loves school, isn’t able to attend public school, unless she is willing to hide her Judaism. Her daughter, in grade 11 and who did not want to be named, said: “Since October 7, I’ve had a hard time going to school. Mentally I have had to prepare myself each morning.”
The breaking point came last Thursday.
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Ontario’s education minister, Stephen Lecce, said the school board that runs Burlington Central High needs to smarten up when it comes to addressing antisemitism.
“The gross rise of antisemitism needs to be a wake-up call to the director and leadership of the Halton District School Board to do something about this disturbing trend,” Lecce told National Post.
(Isn’t that the same district as Booby McShopTeacher?)
The board acknowledges the antisemitic incident at the Arts & Craft event with a map displayed that had removed Israel, etc…“The Halton District School Board does not tolerate the erasure of any nation or identity and views the erasure of Israel from a map as antisemitic. I can assure you that staff are investigating this issue.
On Monday evening, three hours after the National Post asked the school board about last week’s incident, the board sent an email to the Burlington Central school community about “incidents” at the culture event.
In it, the board said the map at the event was antisemitic, just as the board’s statement to the Post said, that was sent on Tuesday morning about “an incident.” The letter to the community, however, said that “discriminatory behaviour was also directed toward some students at our school who were targeted by a community member for wearing a keffiyeh and jewelry with a Palestinian flag. This behaviour demonstrates anti-Palentinian (sic) racism and is not tolerated in our school.”
It gets weirder and there’s more at the above link.
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Then is is just a different CBC thing…
“I live in Burlington, Ontario, Canada, and my child is not in school because she’s Jewish. That’s insane,” said Anissa Hersh, after withdrawing her daughter from Burlington Central High School last week.
“I can’t believe that this is happening. My daughter, who does really well at school, she loves school, isn’t able to attend public school, unless she is willing to hide her Judaism. Her daughter, in grade 11 and who did not want to be named, said: “Since October 7, I’ve had a hard time going to school. Mentally I have had to prepare myself each morning.”
The breaking point came last Thursday.
Ontario mom pulls Jewish daughter out of high school after antisemitic 'culture' event — National Post
'I live in Burlington, Ontario, Canada, and my child is not in school because she’s Jewish. That’s insane,' says mother of Grade 11 student
“The gross rise of antisemitism needs to be a wake-up call to the director and leadership of the Halton District School Board to do something about this disturbing trend,” Lecce told National Post.
(Isn’t that the same district as Booby McShopTeacher?)
The board acknowledges the antisemitic incident at the Arts & Craft event with a map displayed that had removed Israel, etc…“The Halton District School Board does not tolerate the erasure of any nation or identity and views the erasure of Israel from a map as antisemitic. I can assure you that staff are investigating this issue.
On Monday evening, three hours after the National Post asked the school board about last week’s incident, the board sent an email to the Burlington Central school community about “incidents” at the culture event.
In it, the board said the map at the event was antisemitic, just as the board’s statement to the Post said, that was sent on Tuesday morning about “an incident.” The letter to the community, however, said that “discriminatory behaviour was also directed toward some students at our school who were targeted by a community member for wearing a keffiyeh and jewelry with a Palestinian flag. This behaviour demonstrates anti-Palentinian (sic) racism and is not tolerated in our school.”
It gets weirder and there’s more at the above link.
Student sues OCADU for $1M over alleged failure to protect Jewish students — CBC News
A student at Toronto's Ontario College of Art & Design University is seeking $1 million in damages after alleging she was subjected to ongoing anti-Jewish discrimination at the school.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has found himself. For a while, he was lost. But the Gaza war has given him an issue he can get his teeth into.For much of the last year, Gaza and the Hamas war were seen in Liberal party circles as problems the prime minister would do well to ignore. That’s because they highlighted the fundamental split over Israel that bedevils the party.
If the government criticized Israel, it was called antisemitic. If it didn’t it was called anti-Islamic.
For months, the Canadian government’s position on the Hamas war was near impossible to winkle out. It supported those calling for a ceasefire. But it did not support the idea of a ceasefire itself.
Canada vigorously criticized — in the abstract — those who attacked civilians. But it rarely got around to naming them. But along the way something changed. Trudeau got less mealy mouthed. He was less reluctant to take on Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Indeed, he singled Netanyahu out for his opposition to the two-state solution, calling him an obstacle to peace. When the International Criminal Court compared Netanyahu to the outlaw head of Hamas, Trudeau mumbled that maybe this was inappropriate.
But after a few days, when another tribunal, the International Court of Justice, called on Israel to end the war in Gaza, Trudeau was almost gleeful. The ICJ’s demands, he said, were not optional. Israel had to abide by them. “We expect everyone to follow them as a matter of international law,” he said.
The war between Israel and Hamas is at one level a familiar conflict between two long-time adversaries. But outside the region it is also a defining conflict between generations. It is the Vietnam War of the modern era. Trudeau understands this. It is why he feels free to be critical of Israel at all. It is his key (in his own mind) to winning the next election.
“Sunny ways,” he told reporters. “Sunny ways.”
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If the government criticized Israel, it was called antisemitic. If it didn’t it was called anti-Islamic.
For months, the Canadian government’s position on the Hamas war was near impossible to winkle out. It supported those calling for a ceasefire. But it did not support the idea of a ceasefire itself.Canada vigorously criticized — in the abstract — those who attacked civilians. But it rarely got around to naming them. But along the way something changed. Trudeau got less mealy mouthed. He was less reluctant to take on Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Indeed, he singled Netanyahu out for his opposition to the two-state solution, calling him an obstacle to peace. When the International Criminal Court compared Netanyahu to the outlaw head of Hamas, Trudeau mumbled that maybe this was inappropriate.
But after a few days, when another tribunal, the International Court of Justice, called on Israel to end the war in Gaza, Trudeau was almost gleeful. The ICJ’s demands, he said, were not optional. Israel had to abide by them. “We expect everyone to follow them as a matter of international law,” he said.
The war between Israel and Hamas is at one level a familiar conflict between two long-time adversaries. But outside the region it is also a defining conflict between generations. It is the Vietnam War of the modern era. Trudeau understands this. It is why he feels free to be critical of Israel at all. It is his key (in his own mind) to winning the next election.
“Sunny ways,” he told reporters. “Sunny ways.”
On Israel, Justin Trudeau has found himself — Toronto Star
For a while it appeared that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had lost his way, but then something changed. Trudeau got less mealy mouthed and less reluctant to take on Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
BATRA’S BURNING QUESTIONS: Anti-Semitism in Canada once again out of the shadows — Toronto Sun
Watch as Sun Editor-in-Chief Adrienne Batra, Sun political columnist Brian Lilley and and Sun editor Lorrie Goldstein speak about how anti-Semitism has been lurking in the shadows for years in Canada and is now rearing its ugly head — and being welcomed at universities across the country. They...
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Adam Pankratz: B.C.'s 'racist hotline' just more virtue signalling, while raging Jew hatred ignored — National Post
It is an uncomfortable step towards something like Scotland's failed Hate Crime law
An interesting example of the disconnect between what the government thinks is needed and what is going on in the streets was on display the day before the incendiary device was launched at the synagogue. Nikki Sharma, BC’s attorney general, announced the creation of a non-emergency racist hotline, the Racist Incident Hotline. The service will offer “culturally appropriate support,” for alleged racist incidents in 240 languages and collect data on racism in B.C.
Same as its always been. The end of Zionist occupation and land grabs in the West Back/Jerusalem.
Even real Jews hate the atheist Zionists like Mileikowsky (so called secular Jews) who dont give a flying fuck about Judaism and Jewish law.
If you paid attention youll remember Israel almost fell into civil war less than a year ago and is still on the brink.
That at least will be easy. Once Hamas is eliminated there will be no more war.
Who knows what’s in their heads (?) but anyone can read what’s in their founding charter. Its struggle is against “the Jews” as opposed to the state of Israel, in making Israel…go away. I’ll pull the below from Wiki.
The original Charter identified Hamas as the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine and described its members to be god-fearing Muslims raising the banner of Jihad (armed struggle) in "the face of the oppressors." The charter defines the struggle to be against the Jews and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic Palestinian state in all of former Mandatory Palestine, and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.
In 2017, Hamas unveiled a revised charter, without explicitly revoking the 1988 charter…and its in the three decades later version that Hamas uses the term “Zionists” instead of “Jews.” I’m assuming they didn’t feel the need to try to mask their racist hatred behind a veil of political correctness for the first couple decades.
So, let me throw a question back out there, and hopefully it helps answer the original question. On October 7, 2023…when Hamas & Friends we’re driving through the streets of Gaza with that half naked broken woman in the back of their pick up truck that was abducted from the music festival (hopefully for her sake she was already a corpse at that point), And the average Gaza Palestinians where spitting on her or striking her with sticks as they drove by…was this demonstrating a distinction between the state of Israel and Jewish citizens (or German/Jewish in this case)?
Circling back to the question of, “does Hamas desire the extermination of the Jews or the end of the state of Israel,” what and where would the “Jews” go once/if the Hamas mission is fulfilled?
In Israel, something like 20% of the population are Palestinian (both Muslim and Christian). The population of Gaza is 100% non-Jewish. Is this demonstrating a distinction between Jewish people and the state of Israel (?) or that the governing body of Gaza being Hamas doesn’t want “Jews” to exist there?
I don’t think a “war to end all wars” truly exists. I think that was the slogan for World War I, wasn’t it? There’s been war since then. If Hamas is eliminated, it just means there won’t be war with Hamas.
Yeah, pretty much.
You do realize, I hope, that your trade in OUTRAGE! makes you a propagandist indistinguishable from those people whoring around photos of dead Palestinian kids.
As to the last bit, yeah, the Good Gize neutralized the PLO, and since then there's been blissful peace all over the Middle East.
An atheist Zionist Jew is still considered a Jew.
Go back to last summer for the reasons behind the near civil war in Israel. Israel was founded as Jewish State under Mosaic Law. Atheist Zionsts are pushing to abandon the very laws and status as a theologically founded nation.
We are fed an illusion of Israel and the term Jewish.
The Blues Brothers(hood) Jews are actually Jews. If a Muslim or Christian abandons Islam he is just an Arab, Indonesian, African or what have you.
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In drafting a charter for an organization, be it Hamas or the Water Buffaloes, etc…I’m assuming the wording and language used in that charter would be very specific and carefully chosen.
In the wording, “The charter defines the struggle to be against the Jews and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic Palestinian state in all of former Mandatory Palestine, and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel” what is Hamas stating? What have their actions in the last 3.5 decades demonstrated? I don’t know what’s in the heads of Hamas, but we can read their charter, listen to what they’re saying, and look at what their actions demonstrate.
The charter defines the struggle to be against the Jews and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic Palestinian state in all of former Mandatory Palestine, and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.
The eventual creation of an Islamic Palestinian state in all of former Mandatory Palestine is the straight up “From the River to the Sea!” chant that collage students think is just about solidarity…
Then the creation of an Islamic Palestinian state would accept Jewish people in what way?
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Jewish Population by country: 1948, 1972 and recent times
In the wording, “The charter defines the struggle to be against the Jews and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic Palestinian state in all of former Mandatory Palestine, and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel” what is Hamas stating? What have their actions in the last 3.5 decades demonstrated? I don’t know what’s in the heads of Hamas, but we can read their charter, listen to what they’re saying, and look at what their actions demonstrate.
The charter defines the struggle to be against the Jews and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic Palestinian state in all of former Mandatory Palestine, and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.
The eventual creation of an Islamic Palestinian state in all of former Mandatory Palestine is the straight up “From the River to the Sea!” chant that collage students think is just about solidarity…
Then the creation of an Islamic Palestinian state would accept Jewish people in what way?
Jewish exodus from the Muslim world - Wikipedia
| Country or territory | 1948 Jewish population | 1972 Jewish population | Recent estimates |
|---|---|---|---|
| Morocco | 250000[76]–265000[77] | 31000[269] | 2,100 (2019)[270][better source needed] |
| Algeria | 140000[76][77] | 1000[269] | 50–200 (2021)[271][272] |
| Tunisia | 50000[76]–105000[77] | 8000[269] | 1000 (2019)[270] |
| Libya | 35000[76]–38000[77] | 50[269] | 0 (2014)[273] |
| North Africa Total | ~500000 | ~40000 | ~3000 |
| Iraq | 135000[77]–140000[76] | 500[269] | 5–7 (2014)[273] |
| Egypt | 75000[77]–80000[76] | 500[269] | 100 (2019)[273] |
| Yemen and Aden | 53,000[76]–63,000[77] | 500[269] | 50 (2016)[274] |
| Syria | 15000[76]–30000[77] | 4000[269] | 100 (2019)[273] |
| Lebanon | 5000[77]–20000[275][better source needed] | 2000[269] | 100 (2012)[275] |
| Bahrain | 550–600[276][better source needed] | 36 (2007)[277] | |
| Sudan | 350[263] | ≈0 | |
| Middle East (excluding Palestine/Israel) Total | ~300000 | ~7,500 | ~400 |
| Afghanistan | 5000 | 500[269] | 0 (2021)[256] |
| Bangladesh | Unknown | 75–100 (2012)[278] | |
| Iran | 65,232 (1956)[279] | 62,258 (1976)[279][280] - 80000[269] | 9000–20000(2022)[281] |
| Pakistan | 2000–2500[282] | 250[269] | >900 (2017)[283] |
| Turkey | 80000[284] | 30000[269] | 12000–16000(2022)[285] |
| Non-Arab Muslim Countries Total | ~150000 | ~100000 | ~24000 |
Maybe the answer to your question of, “does hamas desire the extermination of Jews or into the state of Israel?”…maybe that’s not an either/or question.
Then, to your question of, “You do realize, I hope, that your trade in OUTRAGE! makes you a propagandist indistinguishable from those people whoring around photos of dead Palestinian kids”…I’m picking a side in debate, & can argue for the other side of the equation equally, though with faux-passion.
(If the debate was over euthanasia, I could argue both sides of the equation equally, though I would personally have a preference for one over the other with my own personal beliefs that have changed over the course of the last 40 years due to life experience and personal interaction with those that have gone through the MAID process, for example)
Then to the “As to the last bit, yeah, the Good Gize neutralized the PLO, and since then there's been blissful peace all over the Middle East,” is that what happened? Didn’t the PLO neutralize themselves by moderating while their followers didn’t?
The chart in post #376 hints towards that, but we’d have to ask a Hamas hierarchy leader that direction question to confirm (maybe) what their motivations actually are beyond what they actually state in their Charter I guess. Jews are skinny on the ground generally in Islamic states (once they become modern Islamic states), but that could be a coincidence, & maybe Hamas plans on doing things differently. Hell if I know.