Public Inquiries into Emergencies Act begin September 19

Ron in Regina

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It's similar here in NB.

The RN course has almost two 'levels' now; basic nurse that it used to be, then administrative duties/manager duties. Then there's Practical nurse which along with the higher end manager duty (I think) is a Masters degree requirement…..
The alphabet soup of accreditation. I believe an RN out here is still an RN, but the coarse went from 2 to 4 years. Done. No choice and it’s two years of Nursing & two years of Administration to become what use to be two years of Nursing…so double the time & double the debt…with the same level of training towards the nursing portion of their training. It forces nurses into administrative rolls to just to get on top of the student debts…which contributes to the nursing shortage again.

Then the LPN thing…they use to have something here where you where “less than” an RN on the scale but that’s a thing of the past…& there’s something “More Than” an RN but “less than” a doctor (a friend of ours that use to be the Nursing Instructor at SIAST has become this & for all intents & purposes she is our Doctor, at least in our minds.

Then another family member was a Licensed Psychiatric Nurse (LPN again?) for decades before shutting that down at the beginning of COVID due to an Auto-Immune disease. She become some hybrid letter combo eventually (RN/LPN?) with more letters than most others.

Well, that advice was well taken wasn't it?
We’re all equal in the eyes of the law, etc…
In the civilized world, trucks run on CNG. Diesels love CNG with no tier 3 bullshit.. Conversion kits and tanks are cheap to import. Availability along regular routes you're running is rsearchable.
Can you even buy CNG in Regina (= Southern SK) now with SaskEnergy sliding out of their building on Winterpeg and “Uncle Wieners” sliding into it?? I honestly don’t know ‘cuz I haven’t checked.
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We haul RV’s from NW Indiana to parts across Western Canada including much of Northern BC for the most part, unless they’re coming out of Idaho or Oregon or Pennsylvania….but mostly out’a Indiana.

MB & SK & ND & MT & all but the Canadian Dick in ON, and most of BC, CNG looks thin on the ground, and I’d have to do more than a two minute google search.
 

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The alphabet soup of accreditation. I believe an RN out here is still an RN, but the coarse went from 2 to 4 years. Done. No choice and it’s two years of Nursing & two years of Administration to become what use to be two years of Nursing…so double the time & double the debt…with the same level of training towards the nursing portion of their training. It forces nurses into administrative rolls to just to get on top of the student debts…which contributes to the nursing shortage again.

Totally this.

They want RN in more administrative positions and managers; irony is they don't teach them HOW to be good managers or administrators so there are people who should not be in those positions, in them. Or RN's want to be like doc's and just hit the specialized care floors and avoid geriatric cause let's face it, geriatric is HARD. Hard on the body and hard on the mind and especially hard on the spirit. Our hospital is currently ALC (alternate Level of Care) due to staffing issues, so we have dementia patients, placement patients and none of them are under 60, and sometimes they're here a year or more, waiting...

Then the LPN thing…they use to have something here where you where “less than” an RN on the scale but that’s a thing of the past…

Wish it was that here. LPN's are still considered 'scrub' and not real nurses by a lot of the older RN staff. The newer RN's at least seem to feel they're nurses too.

Yep, alphabet soup cause here after LPN it's PCW/PCA who take up the position and duties LPN's used to do.

& there’s something “More Than” an RN but “less than” a doctor (a friend of ours that use to be the Nursing Instructor at SIAST has become this & for all intents & purposes she is our Doctor, at least in our minds.)

That is likely the NP - Nurse Practitioner - title. They can write scripts, orders for x-rays and labs, sometimes referrals, but usually they work with/co-work with a doctor in case they need more involved stuff. Here they're using NP's to help lessen the work on doctors in emerg, so if it's something like a rash, a cold, a splinter or whatever, the NP can handle it, but break your collar bone and you'll see the doc since it needs a sedative, or stitches cause only docs can do that. I have a NP instead of a doctor and I absolutely love it.

Then another family member was a Licensed Psychiatric Nurse (LPN again?) for decades before shutting that down at the beginning of COVID due to an Auto-Immune disease. She become some hybrid letter combo eventually (RN/LPN?) with more letters than most others.

Interesting; not sure what that'd be or if NB would let something like that happen. We're horrible when it comes to nursing in a lot of ways.
 
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I know of nurses in Regina well into their 70s that I’ve had to change their phone numbers to unlisted numbers… because even retired they get four or five or six or more phone calls a day every day to come in and cover shifts… begging and pleading and guilting them into coming back to work. Would you want to be a nurse at 75 years old being called half a dozen times daily all through Covid to come in expose themselves (& in turn their families) during a pandemic? It’s crazy.

Things have gotten out of hand and unless the government is financing the training for people entering new industries, it might just be out of reach for most people. With the government treating the trucking industry as a dumping ground for the physically broken (and you can’t be physically broken) or new Canadians that have ZERO experience with winter for the investment in training… it’s going to get way worse.

I just watched somebody go through months and months of testing and training to be an insurance broker in Saskatchewan, & they were already fully accredited in the industry in Florida but this is a different animal I guess.

Hell, Mobile crane operators. I’m away from needing to use that industry in the last decade… but at the time the government wanted to have a journeyman on a truck with every apprentice…& it’s a one-man show…. for a minimum of four years so that that apprentice could become a journeyman…& nobody could afford that. I honestly don’t know how that one panned out or if that’s going to be a high demand industry with no employees very soon.
As far as I know the crane thing is provincial jurisdiction. And the apprenticeship thing has been a problem in BC as well. But, It does not necessarily mean a journeyman has to be on the machine with an apprentice for the full time. Like other apprenticeships, it is somewhat job dependent. Your run of the mill lift is OK, but an engineered lift, or one approaching the limits, requires a journeyman along.Also for small cranes and Hiabs you can just go do the test and get a ticket. We also found an interesting loophole. You don't need a ticket if all the people working around the crane are shareholders in the company. Crane doesn't even have to be certified.
 
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In the civilized world, trucks run on CNG. Diesels love CNG with no tier 3 bullshit.. Conversion kits and tanks are cheap to import. Availability along regular routes you're running is rsearchable.
Few and far between here. I talked to a guy that runs Nanaimo-Victoria with a CNG truck and he said the power sucked. Also had to fill up every trip. Our busses seem to do well on CNG.
 

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So, no crime. Just whimpering.

It will be wimp-wimp away, chief.
Well if t his country is authoritarian, they're failing miserably at that, too.

No, they are not. The leftist liberal non-democratic establishment are doing just great with fkn up this once great British/European country with their socialist bullshit. True conservatism is the only route to go. (y)
 

taxme

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Continuing charter rights violations to start. The term for making laws that strongly favours companies his trust fund is invested in escapes me at the moment is another.

This scumbag PM has made thousands of dollars from the covid scamdemic. For every vaccine that he bought from big pharma, the prik got a kickback from big pharma. WTH? Our politicians are pretty much exempt from prosecution for the many crimes and ethical violations that they have committed against Canadians.

But ask most Canadians if they really give a shit. We know that they do not give a shit because we would not be in the crisis and mess that Canada is fast finding itself in today. We still have the fools out there voting for liberals and socialists constantly. They still just do not get it. :(
 
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Ron in Regina

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Ontario Premier Doug Ford and Minister Sylvia Jones can legally ignore a summons to testify from the Emergencies Act inquiry, despite him having “valuable evidence to offer,” the federal court ruled Monday.

Alberta Minister of Municipal Affairs Ric McIver accused the federal government of doing nothing to help resolve the Freedom Convoy border blockade in Coutts, Alta., until they made the wrong move by invoking the Emergencies Act.

OTTAWA – A senior Ontario government bureaucrat testified Thursday the federal government was trying to “wash its hands” of the convoy protests and make the province take the lead in ending the blockades.

The first four weeks of hearings at the Public Order Emergency Commission (Rouleau commission) have provided an insider’s view into the chaos within this country’s police forces and governments leading up to the declaration of a public order emergency in February.

The head of the RCMP and the prime minister's national security and intelligence adviser will testify before the Emergencies Act inquiry this week.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau shot down the idea of negotiating changes to government policy and referred to an “armed (?) insurrection” during discussions about convoy protests, according to notes tabled with the Emergencies Act inquiry on Thursday.
 

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau shot down the idea of negotiating changes to government policy and referred to an “armed (?) insurrection” during discussions about convoy protests, according to notes tabled with the Emergencies Act inquiry on Thursday.
Well, now, I don't think anybody's denying he got a teeny bit excited. He was worried for his people.
 

taxme

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The “Armed” portion regarding Ottawa was the knowledge/assumption that these trucks would have tools for changing tires, etc…in them. It gets weirder & weirder….

The Emergency Act inquiry is just another charade in the ongoing saga of the dumbing down of Canadians. Nobody's head will roll. No politicians being charged with anything. Just more tax dollars down the drain. I do not pay attention to this farce going on anymore because I already know the outcome. Poof, it's over.

The only losers in all of this will be the patriotic truckers who tried to stand up for rights and freedoms for all Canadians and they paid a heavy price for doing so. They were looked upon as radical terrorists and extremists. So, get over it, people. Find a new topic to start up and talk about. Just a suggestion. :)
 

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Damn. Looks like an "adversary's" nuclear targetting database.
That map looks more like a bunch of nuclear targets on many American cities by Putin. I will be so happy, I mean so sad to see you gone. Aw well, as they say chief? Shit happens. It's been a slice. :D
 

Ron in Regina

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Whoops…Protests did not pose threat to Canada: CSIS

OTTAWA - Liberal cabinet ministers deemed last winter's "Freedom Convoy" protests a threat to national security, despite warnings from the federal intelligence agency that threshold was not met, an inquiry into the use of the Emergencies Act learned Monday.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau invoked the act on Feb. 14, arguing its temporary and extraordinary powers were needed to end blockades in Ottawa and at border crossings.

The legislation says a public order emergency is one that comes from a "serious threat to the security of Canada, as defined by the Canadian Security Intelligence Service Act."

The definition includes espionage or sabotage of Canada's interests, foreign-influenced activities, or the violent overthrow of the government.

The Public Order Emergency Commission, which is holding hearings in Ottawa until Nov. 25, is tasked with determining whether the government was justified in triggering the legislation.

A document summarizing the evidence from David Vigneault, director of CSIS, shows he believed the protest "at no time" posed a threat to Canada's security and that there were no signs of foreign interference.

"He felt an obligation to clearly convey the service's position that there did not exist a threat to the security of Canada as defined by the service's legal mandate," said the document, which was released on Monday through the public inquiry.

CSIS was, however, monitoring subjects of intelligence investigations who were taking part in the protests.

Vigneault, who is expected to testify before the commission next week, advised cabinet that invoking the Emergencies Act could further inflame extreme anti-government rhetoric.

Rob Stewart, who was deputy minister of public safety at the time of the protests, told the commission on Monday that the government would have a more broad interpretation of what constitutes a national security threat.

"The cabinet is making that decision and their interpretation of the law is what governs here," Stewart told the commission. "And their decision was evidently that the threshold was met."

Brendan Miller, a lawyer for the Ottawa "Freedom Convoy" protesters, suggested that no federal agency advised cabinet that the protest posed a national threat, as defined in the legislation.

"You have the RCMP, you have CSIS, you have the entire intelligence apparatus in the federal government and none of them said that this threshold was met, did they?" Miller asked Stewart during cross-examination Monday.

"They weren't asked," Stewart said.


"It is affecting Canada's reputation internationally, hurting trade and commerce, and undermining confidence and trust in our institutions."

The testimony Monday provided the commission with its first look behind the curtain at cabinet discussions before they invoked the act for the first time since it replaced the War Measures Act in 1988.

As early as Feb. 7, John Ossowski, who was then-president of the Canada Border Services Agency, suggested to federal, provincial and territorial officials that the Emergencies Act could be used to compel tow truck drivers to help remove large rigs, the commission has learned.

On Feb. 10, cabinet formally discussed the idea of invoking the act. A summary of notes from an emergency cabinet committee meeting that day says Trudeau raised the notion of two tracks forward: actions that could be undertaken under existing authorities, and the process of invoking the Emergencies Act.

Most of the details from the ensuing discussion have been blacked out.
 

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Whoops…Protests did not pose threat to Canada: CSI
Well obviously this is going spectacularly badly for Justin, but at the end of the day with an election three years distant and no punishment for envoking the act without lawful excuse there really isn't any reason for him to care about this.

It's just going to be a case of "oh dear, i squashed the rights of some people i don't like, i'll 'do better' next time Yawn! next issue pls.
 
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Ron in Regina

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Well obviously this is going spectacularly badly for Justin, but at the end of the day with an election three years distant and no punishment for envoking the act without lawful excuse there really isn't any reason for him to care about this.

It's just going to be a case of "oh dear, i squashed the rights of some people i don't like, i'll 'do better' next time Yawn! next issue pls.
It’ll “be a lesson we can all learn from”… heard it (almost) all before.

I’ve learned so many lessons in the last 7 years about not wearing Blackface while throwing women under busses & so on & so forth…that would only be applicable if I was the PM of Canada.