Public Inquiries into Emergencies Act begin September 19

Ron in Regina

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People often ask why the Canadian Constitution Foundation is fighting Ottawa in the federal courts over the invocation of the Emergencies Act when all that can be awarded is a declaration that the government acted illegally. We’re fighting because the Emergencies Act is a carefully written piece of legislation designed to prevent governments from suspending civil liberties and rounding up hundreds of people on a pretext, as Pierre Trudeau appeared to do in October 1970.

Although the Emergencies Act didn’t stop Justin Trudeau’s government from repeating history, confirmation by the courts should give future governments pause and reduce the risk of a trumped-up emergency declaration happening again.

As the government of Justin Trudeau appeals January’s Federal Court decision that found his invocation of the Emergencies Act in 2022 to be unlawful, history is repeating itself in uncanny ways.
 

Serryah

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People often ask why the Canadian Constitution Foundation is fighting Ottawa in the federal courts over the invocation of the Emergencies Act when all that can be awarded is a declaration that the government acted illegally. We’re fighting because the Emergencies Act is a carefully written piece of legislation designed to prevent governments from suspending civil liberties and rounding up hundreds of people on a pretext, as Pierre Trudeau appeared to do in October 1970.

Although the Emergencies Act didn’t stop Justin Trudeau’s government from repeating history, confirmation by the courts should give future governments pause and reduce the risk of a trumped-up emergency declaration happening again.

As the government of Justin Trudeau appeals January’s Federal Court decision that found his invocation of the Emergencies Act in 2022 to be unlawful, history is repeating itself in uncanny ways.

So Pierre invoking Marshal Law was not a good idea?

He should'a left things as they were?

Interesting point of view.
 

Ron in Regina

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So Pierre invoking Marshal Law was not a good idea?

He should'a left things as they were?

Interesting point of view.
If you read the article that you’re linking to which I’m assuming you’ve done, you will see that they’re making several different comparisons.

Poppa & cabinet exaggerating, the number of people involved as a threat (I think it was actually between 30 and 40, but they were saying 3500) and same with Justin (whoever owned the one camper at Coutts border crossing vrs the Diag-whatever group that’s really a handful of people), etc…
 
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So Pierre invoking Marshal Law was not a good idea?

He should'a left things as they were?

Interesting point of view.
Probably he should have . He lost the support of the nation with that move and everything he has tried since is making it worse . Let’s open the sea cocks and sink the good ship Liberal .
 
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Ron in Regina

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If you read the article that you’re linking to which I’m assuming you’ve done, you will see that they’re making several different comparisons.

Poppa & cabinet exaggerating, the number of people involved as a threat (I think it was actually between 30 and 40, but they were saying 3500) and same with Justin (whoever owned the one camper at Coutts border crossing vrs the Diag-whatever group that’s really a handful of people), etc…
Papa Trudeau had his own version of Brenda Lucki back in 1970 (RCMP head) that also did not speak up with the actual facts & numbers but was a good team player & took one for the gipper, etc… there are several different parallels mentioned, etc…
 
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Ron in Regina

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So Pierre invoking Marshal Law was not a good idea?

He should'a left things as they were?

Interesting point of view.
The situation was indeed serious. The separatist Front de libération du Québec (FLQ) that had terrorized Quebec with bombings in the 1960s had kidnapped Quebec’s labour and immigration minister, Pierre Laporte, and the British trade commissioner, James Cross. Laporte was later killed.

But not only was there never any apprehended insurrection (a legal requirement to invoke the War Measures Act), Pierre Trudeau was wilfully blind to whether one existed. This is apparent from formerly secret testimony by then-commissioner of the RCMP William Higgitt, which was obtained through an access to information request by the Canadian Constitution Foundation, as well as the findings of lawyer Jean-Francois Duchaîne in his 1980 investigation into the FLQ crisis for the Quebec government.
Papa Trudeau had his own version of Brenda Lucki back in 1970 (RCMP head) that also did not speak up with the actual facts & numbers but was a good team player & took one for the gipper, etc… there are several different parallels mentioned, etc…
Higgitt had testified secretly in 1979 to the public inquiry into the illegal activities of the RCMP Security Service, also known as the McDonald commission. He attended daily meetings with cabinet members including Pierre Trudeau in the days leading up to the invocation of the War Measures Act. Yet he testified, according to the newly obtained records, that he was never asked whether he believed there was an apprehended insurrection, or whether he thought the War Measures Act was necessary to counter the FLQ. Had he been asked for his opinion, he told the commission nine years later, Higgitt would have said “no.”

So….maybe?? Maybe not?? The about 35 FLQ where not good people, and of those 5 where really not good people I guess. Did those 5/35 require the War Measures Act?

When the War Measures Act was invoked in 1970, federal minister Jean Marchand estimated that there were as many as 3,000 FLQ members. In his investigation afterward, Duchaîne put the number at closer to 35. Meanwhile, McDonald commission reported that of the 467 persons arrested during the October crisis, only five were prosecuted, etc…rest at above link.
 
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